Do People Really Change

People say they’ve changed, but what does that really mean? Is it growth, or just a better version of the same habits?

This episode of The Heavyweight Collective takes a real look at personal growth, honesty, and the moments that reveal who people truly are. What starts as a casual conversation about life and work quickly turns into a deeper discussion about aging, shifting priorities, and the urgency that comes with realizing time isn’t as flexible as it once felt.

The conversation challenges the idea of change, breaking down what it actually takes for someone to grow and why it often requires discomfort, accountability, and self-awareness. It also questions the concept of brutal honesty, highlighting the difference between speaking truth and using honesty as an excuse to be careless with your words.

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Transcript

Cold Open And Outside Energy

SPEAKER_03 0:00

In the hood, we in the upper hood. Upper hood hood. Welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome, welcome.

unknown 0:14

Up the everywhere collected.

SPEAKER_03 0:18

Gunshots. Bang, bang, bang. We outside. You know what we do. We know what we're doing. We be outside. We outside. Don't be telling her not to be, she don't be outside because we be outside. Shit. We outside because she won't let us in. What the yeah.

SPEAKER_01 0:34

It's small in there.

SPEAKER_03 0:36

Walk through the outside to get to the outside.

SPEAKER_01 0:40

Ah.

SPEAKER_03 0:42

I'm gonna be your host today. Yeah, yeah. Uh this episode ain't about shit. We're just gonna be talking about shit. Uh not like actors, right? No, not like doo-doo. Not no doo-doo. I don't do that. Doo-doo is like, that's my like, that's my line. Hey. Hey, nigga, you gotta bring Hambone back. Hambone? Yeah. Who's Hambone? Hambone Jenkins. Hambone Jenkins. I don't even know if he has a have a character. I should make a character for Hambone Jenkins. And him and uh him and Fictitious should do a show together. Hambone might be a good one, give some overalls and shit. Yeah. Anyway. I'm happy Sharon got an actual T. She was drinking that shit like it was full. Yeah, she was.

SPEAKER_01 1:27

That shit was very, very. It was a little bit. Y'all make me nervous.

SPEAKER_03 1:33

How are you guys? How was your weeks?

SPEAKER_01 1:35

Everybody's yeah, let's move on. My week was great.

SPEAKER_03 1:40

All right, nigga. Whatever. It's great, huh? What was great about it? What's great about it? Sweet. Thanks for the the uh tell me what's great about it.

SPEAKER_01 1:49

I was trying to think about it. I feel like it's been a minute since I seen you guys.

SPEAKER_03 1:53

It's been a minute. Um actual minute.

SPEAKER_01 1:57

Yeah. Yeah. Uh no, I mean, week was good, work was good. Work was actually really good. I do. Yeah, we're in her office. We're in my office as we spoke. Ballin!

SPEAKER_03 2:12

Don't let them know. She got that, she got that canard arc.

SPEAKER_01 2:16

This is uh this is a multi-purpose room, apparently.

SPEAKER_03 2:21

Um like, you know, I'm not gonna be able to make it, but if y'all pull up.

SPEAKER_01 2:26

Yeah, okay, okay, let's let's go. And then was late to her own house.

SPEAKER_03 2:30

Nigga, how you late and you at home? That's crazy. I already like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:35

Thought I wasn't gonna make today. Um, so I threw out there, like, just playing. I do want to add, I was playing around. I was like, oh, the only way I'm gonna be able to do it is if I'm on video or something.

SPEAKER_03 2:44

Well, you can't play with serious niggas.

SPEAKER_01 2:46

Yeah, no, for a nigga's like, oh, push out. Hello. Can't even drop this shit off last night. That's funny. But yeah, week was good. I got to hang out with my friend yesterday and have some girl time. And yeah, week was good.

Week Recaps And Location Talk

SPEAKER_03 3:02

Y'all niggas always need girl time. Don't be doing shit with spending money.

SPEAKER_01 3:06

No, we was here. We wouldn't spend no money.

SPEAKER_04 3:08

I gotta point out the fact that we we're on location.

SPEAKER_03 3:11

Yeah, yeah. We out here, we out here. Did you hear the White House being the ballroom being built?

SPEAKER_04 3:18

I was thinking, I I thought you ever heard of Michael Irvin's White House?

SPEAKER_03 3:22

Cocaine? Cocaine is it the same as Chris Brown's?

SPEAKER_01 3:26

I like when you say cocaine. That shit is so funny.

SPEAKER_03 3:29

It's Chris Brown's the same. They got the same White House.

SPEAKER_01 3:32

It's very peaceful out here. If you can if we weren't, if we didn't have noise canceling headphones on, you could hear the birds chirping.

SPEAKER_03 3:38

The birds chirping.

SPEAKER_01 3:39

It's nice.

SPEAKER_03 3:40

Niggas jogging and shit, because this ain't the hood. We don't we didn't have we didn't have four-five niggas just run by the house. I said, Oh yeah, these niggas comfortable out here. Yeah. Ain't nobody selling strawberries, nothing, nah.

SPEAKER_01 3:54

Well, they, you know, icing them. That got everybody up out of here.

SPEAKER_03 3:57

Nah, where I'm at. Really? Oh, hell yeah. They be coming up to the car, like, hey.

SPEAKER_01 4:01

Our cornman don't come no more, my kids. Yeah. My kids like the cornman, but everybody's still thing.

SPEAKER_03 4:08

They like ghetto? How was you?

SPEAKER_04 4:12

Oh, it was chill. It was chill. You know, I moved up in seniority porch. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, hold on.

SPEAKER_03 4:19

Yeah, must I did, nigga.

SPEAKER_04 4:22

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I went from seniority number 412 to 341. All these niggas retired.

SPEAKER_01 4:31

I was gonna say who's gonna be.

SPEAKER_04 4:32

Oh, they could be cashed in. They all cashed in. All them niggas retired. That's what I'm saying. No, they cashed in. They cashed up in my life. I've never in my life, I'm telling you, Maurice, if you would have seen this shit, all these dudes was smiling. And I was like, I get it.

SPEAKER_03 4:49

I saw the damn post. You know, 45. 45 years, nigga, you should have been though.

unknown 4:54

The fuck?

SPEAKER_04 4:55

They were all walking in smiling and cheesing and shit, and I was like, I'm happy for you, but get the fuck out.

SPEAKER_01 5:00

That's gonna be you, because you started at 18, right? Yeah. So you're gonna put in like 45 years old.

SPEAKER_03 5:04

No, no, them niggas was doing 45 years doing what they're doing now. Yeah. They had been with the company probably fucking straight driving for 45. Damn.

SPEAKER_04 5:12

I've been there 22 years and I'm eligible for retirement at 49.

SPEAKER_03 5:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 5:16

But I'm yeah.

SPEAKER_03 5:18

I think I'll be good. This nigga's not retiring at 49. Alori gonna make this nigga work till he's 70 because he's about to be eaten.

SPEAKER_01 5:25

But and the reason why I say that is like I remember when I was young, I started my job at 18, and I'm almost at 20 years. Oh, damn. And everybody shut up. Everybody always used to be like, oh, that's so cool. You're gonna be able to retire. And I'm like, I still gotta work the same amount of years, y'all. It's just that, you know what I mean? Like, I still, my earliest retirement age is 50, 50, I think, but I still won't get my full salary.

SPEAKER_04 5:51

You should probably get taxed a lot more if you don't know here. I gotta listen. I'm 111.

SPEAKER_01 5:55

So if I actually stay there, my goal, got willing, is that I will stop working there at 50 and let my retirement sit and then I'll do something different. Um, you're not. Why? No, why not? But for you said why? Yeah, for you. Because why continue in a job where I gotta be up at six in the morning? Like that part of my life, I will have geared myself to be doing something that I want to do. Like a what?

SPEAKER_03 6:19

Like a what?

SPEAKER_01 6:20

Well, to be honest with you.

SPEAKER_04 6:22

Posting videos of you grounded?

SPEAKER_01 6:24

No, why?

SPEAKER_04 6:25

I'm gonna do feet finder or I'm gonna do that shit with my feet on there.

SPEAKER_01 6:30

I'm gonna I'm gonna finish school.

SPEAKER_04 6:31

You have to register the sex worker. You have to register the sex worker. What do I do with my feet?

SPEAKER_01 6:36

As a what? Oh, sex worker. I thought he was sex working.

SPEAKER_04 6:38

What do I have to do with my feet to be a sex worker?

SPEAKER_03 6:41

Just posting the picture of your sexual.

SPEAKER_04 6:43

Yeah. Is sex working?

SPEAKER_03 6:44

You didn't ask. Oh, because motherfuckers are doing what they're doing. Yeah, but they ain't got no control over that.

SPEAKER_01 6:49

Yeah, no. Y'all the freak. I was just trying to.

SPEAKER_03 6:52

I didn't advertise it that way. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 6:56

So yeah.

SPEAKER_03 6:57

Niggas like bunions and corns and shit. Like, nobody told you to like that.

SPEAKER_04 7:01

My name on there would be What's that? Dale I get toe. Uh, the toe.

SPEAKER_01 7:07

Back to your seniority. You said you jumped from what number to what number?

SPEAKER_04 7:11

412 to 341.

SPEAKER_01 7:12

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 7:12

That's cool.

SPEAKER_01 7:14

I love that for you. 22 years, that's really the okay. A lot of people, I remember when I hit 10 years in my job and I was, everybody was just like, I'm like, nigga, I just been going to work. But then I realized, like, motherfuckers just don't keep working. Like, you know, like different things happen.

SPEAKER_03 7:28

At the same place, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 7:29

At the same place.

SPEAKER_03 7:30

And then I thought I just laugh. Because now you don't go to work at all.

SPEAKER_01 7:34

I go to work every day.

SPEAKER_03 7:35

Because you work at home. You don't go to work.

SPEAKER_01 7:37

I worked last Sunday, matter of fact.

SPEAKER_03 7:38

But you don't go into work.

SPEAKER_01 7:40

This is going into work. When I go over. And that's what I mean, nigga. You're not leaving the house. I know, but you know what I mean. I'm still working.

SPEAKER_03 7:45

Do that for like four more years.

SPEAKER_01 7:48

Well, and then that's the thing. Now that I'm gonna work from home or I gotta wank up. But no, I still want to do, I still want to carry out my goals. I want to become a therapist. You want to be a therapist of how you be hitting niggas?

SPEAKER_03 8:00

Well, she didn't say we don't know what kind of therapist. Yeah. She might be. Yeah. She be beating niggas ass. One of them shut up. You gotta whoop the nigga ass. That's how you feel like you playing in my face.

SPEAKER_01 8:12

There's a shut up. There's a I'm not telling the person. Okay, I feel like you're playing in my face. What did you say to them?

SPEAKER_04 8:20

That could be that could actually be the slogan.

SPEAKER_01 8:23

No, um, there's a video that was like I could never be a therapist because I'm gonna be like, show me a picture of the nigga that you crying about.

SPEAKER_03 8:30

I say that shit. We crying for this?

SPEAKER_01 8:33

I need to really see. I need a full picture of all of this.

SPEAKER_03 8:36

We crying for this?

Seniority And Early Retirement Plans

SPEAKER_01 8:38

Yeah. So one day I'll put a couch in here and this is where I'll do my sessions at.

SPEAKER_03 8:41

How's your week, nigga? Um, I crossed the threshold, man.

SPEAKER_01 8:46

What threshold?

SPEAKER_03 8:48

I'm I'm gonna just let you go before I'm not gonna answer it. Yeah, I'm I'm I'm officially the big four-o. It was your birthday? Yeah, yeah. I didn't know what he was about to say.

SPEAKER_04 8:59

Well, by the way, by the time.

SPEAKER_03 9:01

Yeah. Yeah, by the time y'all hear this, I'll be the same.

SPEAKER_01 9:02

Oh, okay. I was like, I thought I didn't just miss your birthday. Happy birthday. Don't try to fight, you know, and got sort of shun got some. Why you sound depressed? I don't know why you sound depressed.

SPEAKER_03 9:11

I wasn't depressed. Are you trying to sound like more regal? Yeah, you know.

SPEAKER_01 9:19

He's being mature right now.

SPEAKER_03 9:20

I am healthier than I thought I would be. Uh my bones hurt. And uh bones or your muscles? My bones. My muscles always hurt. The bones. You get used to that. Uh I think I threw my back out coughing the other day.

SPEAKER_01 9:35

He probably did.

SPEAKER_03 9:36

That's why you're eating them cough drops as a percussion. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:42

Keep an accident from happening.

SPEAKER_03 9:43

This is from a list. This is it. And like uh like uh Dela Ghetto said, you know, I got nine years to retirement, but I can't retire today. Welcome, welcome.

SPEAKER_04 9:51

I can't fucking retire before you die. All y'all sent me, it was like four people that sent me that that senior list trip up. I said, damn. And then like Leo was like, man, we think about where we started. I said, man, all I think about is Avion and that bitch ass nigga John. Forced me in on the weekend. Fuck that guy. And he laughed. And I said, I'm dead serious. Fuck that guy.

SPEAKER_01 10:12

What is Oh, sorry, I'll cut you off. What is what is uh seniority, what does that look like? Like is there seniority as king? No. Well, I know what seniority is, but I mean, like, what part does it play at your job?

SPEAKER_04 10:23

Everything.

SPEAKER_01 10:24

Like, as far as what kind of jobs day off, like what is that?

SPEAKER_04 10:27

All that's all that, yeah. All that day off uh what uh jobs you get.

SPEAKER_01 10:32

What?

SPEAKER_04 10:32

Because when you're higher up, you get the the more preferred jobs.

SPEAKER_01 10:35

I'm just asking, because I mean, my we all come from our own perspectives. My job.

SPEAKER_03 10:39

You ain't got no, if you've been there long and you can't look at niggas like, oh, you want that day off now? I do too. And guess who's getting it?

SPEAKER_01 10:46

It's gonna be me to do that. It's whoever put it in first. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:50

It's not guess what I'm saying. Wait a minute.

SPEAKER_01 10:54

If it's no, I don't think you can really do the same time.

SPEAKER_04 10:57

I just know, yeah. You literally, like, years down.

SPEAKER_01 11:00

If you submit your time off right now, and then I submit mine, I can't after you.

SPEAKER_04 11:06

Now we gotta figure out how to get the riddle.

SPEAKER_01 11:07

Same day, get the time.

SPEAKER_04 11:08

Yeah. Get what? Rid of the what?

SPEAKER_03 11:11

The nigga that's the say nothing to criminal. The the nigga that's number one been driving since 1990. So he he just don't want to. These niggas don't want to leave. I'd be an asshole though with that, just because I'll be like, why am I number one if I ain't gonna use it? And then if I was the number one guy. But Kevin, a lot of these niggas that just left was driving before I was born. Yeah. Oh, yeah. And now they they just chilling. A lot of them niggas ain't gonna- I was like, y'all ain't got grandkids or nothing, nigga? They do. That's why they change it. They waited until they got older, so they're like, now I can read it.

SPEAKER_01 11:51

Like you just said. You got great ideas.

SPEAKER_03 11:56

Do it.

SPEAKER_01 11:57

Fuck you. Um is just why they fuck me. Well, because they don't know how they don't live their lives how we live our lives. No shit. Like you said, you got grandkids. Like we we put our lives here. You shouldn't be talking like that around your kids. What you mean?

SPEAKER_03 12:11

Come on, fuck you.

SPEAKER_01 12:13

Shut up.

SPEAKER_03 12:13

I've been doing doing my best. That's probably me. It's probably the course. It's the tea, huh? This is what you call it. It's the tea, yeah. Is she drinking it? She's drinking her icy hot.

SPEAKER_04 12:24

It's not just a cup. Because it's yeah, it's mental heated. That's why I was wondering. Yeah.

Do People Change Or Just Hide

SPEAKER_03 12:28

All right, let me do this. Let me do this. All right. So, like I said, we ain't got a whole lot. It's um Oh, okay. This nigga said he just showed up. Yeah, just showed up. But this kind of goes with that. It's uh no, no, no. Because there's I heard this question and it made me think about that. It's like, do you think people actually change, or do they just get better at hiding?

SPEAKER_04 12:49

It can go either way. Yeah, it can depend on the person.

SPEAKER_03 12:51

The all niggas it's not gonna get me. It doesn't turn on the person. No, I'm bullshit.

SPEAKER_01 12:57

His answer is in general.

SPEAKER_03 12:59

No, I'm I'm gonna keep it 100. I'm gonna keep it 100. I've gotten better at hiding certain shit, and other shit I just changed. So you think people's like not traits. Let's go with like morality, core beliefs. You think those change over time? I think they can, but I think that that takes a traumatic event. I think you're you have those things kind of innately drilled into you as you you're brought up, and then things happen and they may shift one way or the other. That's just a fancy way of saying they can go either way. Yeah, I'm gonna go Sharon nerve today.

SPEAKER_00 13:47

That was tight. I'm actually impressed by that shit. That ain't on my nerves. That was tight. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_03 13:55

But niggas can change. Niggas can change. I'm gonna make sure we mark this 241. I'm gonna save this for a later argument or different episodes. I feel like you're gonna run a 15 month. That's crazy because it's about 15 minutes in.

SPEAKER_01 14:14

Uh, I don't think that people can just change just because. But you have to do that.

SPEAKER_02 14:25

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:26

Um, you have to do work to change because you have your like, you know, we're brought up socially, so you have different elements to you why you are how you are. So it's like sometimes you have to do a lot of undoing to not be that way anymore. So I think that if you're not really doing no real work, you can't change. You can't just be like what work you doing? I do a lot of work. That ain't for nobody to know though.

SPEAKER_03 14:49

Oh I just I just asked that because I was reading your cup. Oh.

SPEAKER_01 14:53

What um part of what I consume in the scriptures.

SPEAKER_03 14:57

I caught that.

SPEAKER_00 14:58

Uh he said, ah, Jesus.

SPEAKER_03 15:01

I like it.

SPEAKER_00 15:01

I know why did you do that? Jesus. Jesus. He literally was like, ah, okay, Jesus. Okay, cool. That was funny.

Honesty Versus Keeping The Peace

SPEAKER_03 15:12

Speaking of Jesus. Who's no? We can't do that, nigga. Who's more reliable? Somebody who's brutally honest or someone who tries to keep the peace. I say beautifully honest, nigga, because you know the nigga, what whatever he says, he knows he meant that shit. Because that's me, nigga. I'm gonna tell you, I meant that shit. When I said it, I meant it.

SPEAKER_04 15:33

I'm gonna say it is still from the person. A brutally honest nigga will be really honest to say, nigga, I ain't showing up. Like, like, yeah. Just put him in the person because a really honest person, he could be honest, but it don't mean he's a real. Yeah, you're gonna do that on your own.

SPEAKER_01 16:09

I don't think that you have to be like a trying to keep the pre peace person in contrast to the eyes.

SPEAKER_03 16:15

Well, the way you the way you fight, niggas. You ain't trying to keep the peace nowhere. The way you be swinging. I still got bruises.

SPEAKER_01 16:23

First of all.

SPEAKER_03 16:24

My whole shoulder hurt. Niggas, y'all saw the way she slapped me last week. Anyway.

SPEAKER_02 16:29

I mean, that is true.

SPEAKER_01 16:30

I think because there's people that like, when I say try, when I hear trying to keep the peace, I think of like a people pleaser, or I think of a pick me, or I think of like like that type of person that's just like.

SPEAKER_03 16:39

What's wrong with this ticket to negative, huh?

SPEAKER_01 16:42

Is that negative? What's wrong with that?

SPEAKER_03 16:43

That's what people make pick me as negative. Ain't nothing wrong with me. Everybody wanna be picked. Everybody wants a person.

SPEAKER_01 16:51

I just mean like you you can be uh you can be mindful. You can be mindful instead of brutally honest. Let's say if the person is being mindful.

SPEAKER_02 17:01

I think that if you're being mindful, but brutally honest ain't mindful most of the time.

SPEAKER_01 17:05

That's what I'm saying. That's that's what I feel like is a more appropriate uh contrast.

SPEAKER_03 17:09

But keep the peace will be a mindful person instead of that's what I would say.

SPEAKER_01 17:13

Because I would put myself in the mindful category. Who the fuck is more reliable?

SPEAKER_03 17:19

That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00 17:21

The mindful person. The mindful person.

SPEAKER_04 17:27

I feel that's the mindful person.

SPEAKER_01 17:32

Because honestly, I think that there's people weaponize the brutally honest. Okay, talk about talk your shit. Come on, and that shit is very people weaponize the brutally honest, and it's just like the example of people that what the fuck is happening?

SPEAKER_03 17:48

What do you mean, though? I don't know. I don't know. Talk your shit, you're fine now.

SPEAKER_00 17:55

No, stop. I hate this.

SPEAKER_04 17:58

You better show up. Hey, man, I'm really hoping this nigga shows up for this shit. Hey, nigga, I'm gonna just keep it a buck with you.

SPEAKER_01 18:08

The way that people weaponize it is they they say mean things or do fucked up shit to people. Like, you know I'm gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_03 18:15

You think they go over the time. No, that's just being an asshole instead of like it gets weaponized. Where you're like, why you you don't have to say that.

SPEAKER_01 18:23

You can just not yeah, you cannot, and you don't have to be that, or the people that are overly like, I don't give a fuck what nobody says. I'm gonna say how I feel. Like, why are you not being mindful of people that you care about? That's weird.

SPEAKER_04 18:35

Because fuck them niggas. Because them brutally honest fathers that are deadbeats. That's it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 18:40

What do you say it again?

SPEAKER_04 18:41

That's that the brutally honest fathers are deadbeats. He's like, man, I think my dad's gonna show up to my game today. Hey, nigga, um I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_01 18:48

Like, like you got, or maybe the honesty looks like, oh, I haven't talked to my dad and follow like nigga, the phone worked both ways. Nigga, your kid is six.

SPEAKER_03 18:58

That is a good line. Yeah. It goes both ways. That's bullshit.

SPEAKER_01 19:02

That's bullshit. That's the type of person that will weaponize brutally honest.

SPEAKER_03 19:06

You know what? He is six, but his mama know how to dial number.

SPEAKER_04 19:09

I even then I don't feel like that's really honest. That nigga's in denial somewhere.

SPEAKER_01 19:13

Thank you. Thank you.

SPEAKER_04 19:14

That's to the to me, like I said, really honest to me is that nigga just honest the root, that's some denial.

SPEAKER_01 19:20

But no, they're in denial, but I'm saying they use I'm brutally honest as they're weaponizing it, and it's like you could do fucked up shit.

SPEAKER_03 19:28

Yeah, I feel you. I think everybody is reliable. Well, that's really that's a very bold statement. Yeah, because I know you mean they're gonna show you who they are so you can trust who they are. Okay, okay. Like like Dark Man said, you can trust trust a snake to be a snake. I get what you're saying. I get what you're saying. But they if they don't know they're a snake, yeah. That's what I'm saying. If they don't know that they're unreliable, I don't know if that's yeah. Somebody here, Sharon. They pulled up. Oh, they probably bust in the street. No, that's my kid.

SPEAKER_01 19:58

She's about to park.

SPEAKER_03 19:59

Oh. Oh, in here? Hell yeah. Do we need to open that? No, we need to. No, we straight. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 20:05

She's just parking. Okay, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03 20:10

I don't know. You had like call some niggas to come over and see.

SPEAKER_00 20:13

That would be crazy.

SPEAKER_03 20:16

Somebody here. Yeah, somebody here, nigga. Hey, let you know. I'm gonna put my back against the wall. They're gonna get some lights.

SPEAKER_01 20:22

It's a camera watching y'all.

SPEAKER_03 20:25

Lights. Hey, nigga. I ain't got nothing on me. Not me either. You just set up the wrong niggas.

SPEAKER_00 20:31

You're gonna have to come up out the Ray Dance, nigga. Come up out the room.

SPEAKER_03 20:34

I just I just show them five my wallet at home.

SPEAKER_00 20:37

I ain't got my wallet or nothing.

SPEAKER_04 20:39

That's if you might not get rostered, but nigga, we're going to the I got a hose, nigga. I'm taking your gas. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 20:46

You just picked up a whole lot of debt. Nigga, did you did you say you put 91 in?

SPEAKER_01 20:50

A nigga that steal is gonna steal.

SPEAKER_03 20:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 20:53

You know what I'm saying? That's like smokers. Smokers will steal all this shit and go party.

SPEAKER_03 20:59

They'll try. I saw a whole lot of shit on the side of the road the other day where I was like, damn, that looked like three months worth of shit. And they just realized they couldn't do shit with it. Fuck this bass.

SPEAKER_01 21:12

Or scrap metal. Motherfucker be selling scrap metal. Oh, it is.

SPEAKER_03 21:15

Yeah, so I think everybody, you know. Yeah, I feel that. I feel that. Hey, hey, that's that's profound, G. You know? Yeah, I had to get something else because, you know, Sean said I'm on her nerve, you know.

SPEAKER_01 21:24

What'd I do now?

SPEAKER_03 21:25

You said I'm on your nerve. I'm not answering it. I like it is though. It is.

Small Gestures That Shift Respect

SPEAKER_02 21:29

I do got one uh I was thinking about this, because uh, I'll just do that first and then I'll give mine. Was something small someone did uh for you that changed the way you look at them?

SPEAKER_03 21:41

Like you didn't like think much of them or something like that, and they do not in a good way.

unknown 21:46

No, nothing.

SPEAKER_02 21:47

No, it could be either way.

SPEAKER_03 21:48

Either way. It don't matter. Because like me, mine is more positive because like when my pops died, there was somebody in Washington that I, you know, he sent some flowers to my mom, which was like, oh, damn. I didn't expect So that was one of those where it was like, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 22:03

And I looked at that person as a lot more of a stand-up person than I normally did before. It was more just, you know, like the comedy friends type stuff. And then once it went to that, it was like, oh shit.

SPEAKER_03 22:15

Like, so you got, you got some sort of like, I don't know if you want to call that home training, because not everybody's gonna do that, but you know what I mean. Like decorum? You went beyond you didn't come to me, you went to my mom's, which was like, oh, that's dope. Yeah. Salute to that. I like decorum. So like, yeah. Did he know your mom? No. Oh, he just said the shit? Yeah. He was like, what's your address? And I was like, well, why? He's like, I wanna send your mom some flowers. And I was like, okay, that's what's up. I appreciate that. I've actually adopted that to the Nigga, don't send no mom's flowers. Well, that was when my pops died. So she's gonna kill them motherfuckers. Well, that's what flowers do. Don't waste your money, nigga. That's what flowers do. Ain't nobody. Who the fuck is planting flowers? You better all send her some fruit you can eat, nigga. Them flowers ain't gonna make it to the big thing. You know what? Those cost less than flowers. Yeah. I thought they're expensive. You know, just get a good bouquet and you'll be like, fuck. Somebody, somebody, somebody asked me, like, you gonna buy your wife flowers? I said, no, nigga. I'm not finna waste my money to watch it die. They're not even gonna try to take care of the shit. No, she don't. I do the state of brothers. Fuck it. I like flowers. They good. They got they stepped up. The stair brother? Mm-hmm. Are they free? No. Oh no. No, you know what? The funniest shit? I saw flowers at Home Depot once. That shit cracked me the fuck. Why? Bouquets of flowers at Home Depot?

SPEAKER_01 23:44

Home Depot got a whole plant.

SPEAKER_03 23:45

Yeah. They got plant section for you to plant flowers. Yeah. Not no damn bouquets. It was like Valentine's Day. These niggas was like, I'm still going to fucking get my tools.

SPEAKER_04 23:56

Anyway, what are y'all niggas? Y'all niggas got something. I was gonna say something and then I was like, that's that's not appropriate. Say it. No, you said Home Depot, and then I thought about who got the flowers for them.

SPEAKER_03 24:07

Oh, damn. Oh, ironic. Irony.

SPEAKER_04 24:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:10

Uh I was gonna get canceled. That's true. Some racist. Right? That's racist. Is it? I'm out. Uh somebody was something somebody did for you to change how you felt.

SPEAKER_03 24:22

How you viewed them. Um, I'm not gonna say it changed how I viewed them. I'm gonna just say it's uh it solidified them even more than me. And I think that's uh it's gonna be mushy as long cried strong. Uh I would say it's it's it's the grace my wife showed me when I was them under pressure. Held me up, carried me and shit.

SPEAKER_00 24:45

I love it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:46

Made me, you know. That's why I stand ten toes down for her. Uh don't don't get it wrong. I want to hit her sometimes. I love, but I love her. That was another change. She's gonna beat your ass. So don't don't threaten me with a good time.

SPEAKER_00 25:02

Ratchet.

SPEAKER_01 25:04

Don't threaten me with a good time. You're so stupid. I don't know. I can't think of anything. I'm sorry. I'm I'm I'm trying to.

SPEAKER_03 25:12

Niggas don't do shit for me.

SPEAKER_01 25:13

No, I didn't.

SPEAKER_03 25:14

I'm out here by myself.

SPEAKER_01 25:15

It ain't gonna be niggas. It could be. No, I don't, I'm not. I I I can't find one right now.

SPEAKER_03 25:21

Your friend took you a whole like wine tasting like a couple months ago. But that wasn't, she probably expected that. Took me? Yeah, you can wine taste. Oh, whoa, why? Whoa. Ain't nobody take her no third half.

SPEAKER_01 25:35

Yeah, we probably both we went Dutch. Yeah, probably.

SPEAKER_03 25:38

I paid my half, nigga. She did say that.

SPEAKER_01 25:42

She did say that. She liked my life. I'm like, damn. Our birthdays and stuff. Y'all niggas don't buy rounds? Every now and then, we do. Uh no, I just I just can't find one right now. But I mean, I know that there's things, like, don't get me wrong. Like, okay, you know what? Let me stop. So um, but this is what I'll say. I can't find one because I can't find like where it changed how I thought about a person. Like, sometimes people show up for you and it's like niggas ain't shit. And nobody ever like just surprised where you're like, I never would have thought you would have. Yeah, I'm already appreciative of these people. So when they show up for you, it's like another notch.

SPEAKER_02 26:18

What about in a different way, though? Like, because sometimes people show up and like you expect them to show up, but there's certain people that show up.

SPEAKER_03 26:24

Well, I don't expect them to show up for this, and then you're like, oh shit.

SPEAKER_01 26:27

No, I get I get what you're saying. I was wrong, my bad. I mean, I can say, like, last year when I had my daughter's birthday party and I was getting everything together here or whatever, and um, they're um my stepkid's mom, basically. So she was like, Oh, you know, we're about to come in a little bit, and it was her and her friend. And she was like, You need you know what regular when friends are on their way, like, you need anything or whatever. And I'm like, What's that like? Huh? Shut up. I'm like, I'm like, I don't think I do. But they were like super early. And you know, when you're like doing a lot, you don't realize you need the help until you realize you need the help. And they were like, um, like the party didn't start for hours, but they're like, we're just gonna come right now or whatever. So they came and their help was like far, it exceeded what I even realized I needed. You know what I mean? And I remember in that moment, but again, this is somebody that I'm really close with. Um, so we show up for each other that way. So I won't say it really changed how I felt about her, but I will say that it was really, really, really appreciated in that moment because, like, girl, like I didn't even know I needed your help the way that for you. Yeah. And it was her and her friend, who I'm familiar with too. It was her best friend. Um, but yeah, they both like we got it, you know, we were cooking and we were still doing stuff to set up for the party, and we got shit done. And it was because I had them that I was able to get it.

SPEAKER_03 27:45

Where are they at now? Because we still ain't got no shit.

SPEAKER_01 27:49

So you think they could come over today mac and cheese, you know. No, that's shout out. Look, should I shout her out? Shout out to these. That's my girl. That's what I call her my sister's mama. That's my uh my my stepkid's mom. We're like, that's my girl.

SPEAKER_03 28:04

That's what's up, that's what's up. Solidify.

SPEAKER_01 28:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:08

McFly. Uh there's two. The the the main one was uh I was 19 years old, I think. And I was working for uh the city as a uh master of the custodial arts from City Hall. And I was also working at UPS. And I had gotten off the job at City Hall, and I had a little break in between time before I had to go to UPS, and I went to Carl's Union to get something to eat. And I went, I got to the front, I gave him an order, and they said the sit the system was down, they weren't taking cars. And I remember thinking, fuck, like, and the guy right behind me was a black dude, was like, I got him, and he dropped the 20 down, and it's like, I got you. He's like, Don't worry about it, just pay it for it. And I looked at him, I was like, I appreciate you. But I I remember thinking, damn, like, like he didn't have to do that. But he was like, I know, you're like, I you I can see you you just go off to work, you want to eat. See, I I was like, I appreciate that. It should change my mind about how to view people the common person. Because I I at that point I was so jaded that I didn't believe that people could be kind hearted towards me.

SPEAKER_01 29:16

That's dope.

SPEAKER_04 29:18

And then the other one was I opened up for Talib Kwali, and um, I remember I was getting heckled by somebody in the um in the crowd, and when I got off the stage, white Jesus showed up. I bullshit us with dude look just like fucking Jesus, like the white Jesus. And he goes, You're dope. We need super dope lyrical guys trying to be dope like you. You did really good out there. I I I just want to say I see you and you're dope, and I said, I appreciate it. And I needed that at that time because I was questioning myself as an artist because I was like, I'm getting heckled. Like that's like kept saying, like, stutter the whole time, and it was like heckling me. And I was like, I don't know if I did good or not. But him just kind of looking like White Jesus, I was like, at that time, it was like, thank you, White Jesus.

SPEAKER_01 30:06

That's cool. I like how yours like it changed your perspective like I was jiggled. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 30:12

And then some or I was thinking low of myself and so, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 30:16

That's funny. That made me think of that shit in comedy. I had some shit like that happen. Like I was up there. Nah, nah, I was up there, and this motherfucker just kissed just it was heckling the fuck out of me. And I was like young in that shit. So I was there, I'm not good at shooting back. And this fucking cowboy ass looking motherfucker, cowboy hat, big old buckle, everything.

SPEAKER_03 30:37

Tight pants and the what's probably what the pants the uh the flannel with the bolo tie. That's a word detail to remember.

SPEAKER_02 30:43

I'm just saying that's how cowboys looking back cowboy shit.

SPEAKER_03 30:50

Fuck y'all.

SPEAKER_01 30:51

It was hell, it wasn't long. I was on demon time. I heard you was timing. I did, I did, I did, I did.

SPEAKER_00 31:02

Yeah, she came on the bus.

SPEAKER_03 31:03

She passed that shit right along. So here, hold this.

SPEAKER_00 31:06

Hold this.

SPEAKER_01 31:09

But he really is on demon time.

SPEAKER_03 31:14

I'm over here because we grounded.

SPEAKER_01 31:15

I can't wait to sage my sunroom when y'all leave.

SPEAKER_03 31:18

Because we grounded. Yeah. Oh, wow. I'll tell you right now that what I brought with me, you can't.

SPEAKER_00 31:24

You ain't gonna get it out of here.

SPEAKER_03 31:28

Oh, you need a priest? Sage ain't gonna do it. Sage ain't gonna do it.

SPEAKER_01 31:33

You are very crazy for that.

SPEAKER_03 31:36

Anyway, I'm not even gonna finish my story. Fuck these. No, he just he stood up and was like, Why don't you just shut the fuck up and let him finish his shit? Good looking. Right. Good looking. So seriously, did he shut up? I guess. He did. He was a big ass nigga.

SPEAKER_04 31:53

Like, are we talking like if he sneezed the wrong way? Hold on.

SPEAKER_03 31:59

This nigga can't. Well, Kevin were you six three? Six? Anytime Kevin said you big ass nigga, you a big ass nigga. I was like, oh that's that's why he shut up. I mean, I guess, yeah. Yeah. If he sneezes, he you know. That's a bald dude.

SPEAKER_02 32:18

Out there in his bolo tie and his cowboy hat.

SPEAKER_04 32:21

Standing up for it. Did he pull up for knickers? That's if he was in a fight, that was probably. I thought it wasn't. Yeah, I didn't think he was on my team.

SPEAKER_01 32:35

Oh, yeah, you for sure were gonna get lynched.

SPEAKER_03 32:37

Yeah. Well, not with that guy. Damn. No, that guy never. You took it there, huh?

SPEAKER_01 32:43

They took it there.

Disappointment From Doing Or Not

SPEAKER_03 32:43

They ain't got no trees. They got cacti. They got cacti. On the cacti, yeah. That's fucked up. Sticky situation. What? What kind of disappointment hits you harder? When you pull up. Go ahead. Oh, I'll say when you pull up and you think you're gonna get some French toast. Oh, okay. And you like, at this time, you actually, instead of Negex coming to you, you went to Negek. You know what's funny? Is with the ending of the question is what people do or what people don't do.

SPEAKER_01 33:23

I know I ain't supposed to like you. I know Kevin hate when I say what I was gonna do, but I didn't do. I really, I don't even know if y'all like shrimp.

SPEAKER_03 33:30

I like I like how she I like how she uh prefaces by saying, I know y'all hate when I say this, but I'm gonna go.

SPEAKER_01 33:37

Uh I had bought stuff to make shrimp and grits because Maya wanted me to make it for her friend, one of her friends tonight.

SPEAKER_03 33:43

But I just didn't have the Hey, this has been episode 241.

SPEAKER_01 33:49

I'm trying to get the fuck up out of here. I know y'all don't like when I do that, but I really did. My intentions was to make shrimp and grits, but I just I got up in like five minutes.

SPEAKER_03 33:56

Nigga, I don't believe nothing you say.

SPEAKER_01 33:58

You ain't gotta believe it. I don't say shit just to say it though. What was the question, Kevin? He's actually The disappointment. Yeah, no, of course. We weren't talking about what people do or what people don't do. In this instance.

SPEAKER_03 34:14

Uh to answer the question, honestly, uh sir. I would I would say uh both of them what people do. I do like that. I think I'm in agreement. Because uh to not do it could be various reasons why. Like you they could forgotten or they could have good morals depending on the situation, but to do, and so you purposely fucked me over. I mean you put that you took the effort to fuck me over, you just a shitty ass person. So I would say it's the it's the do. I you know, I don't yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:44

Yeah, I agree with that. Not the do-doo, unless like you consider the person that just constantly says what they're gonna do and they don't.

SPEAKER_03 34:54

Yeah, they constantly say they're gonna have food for you and you come up.

SPEAKER_01 34:56

Y'all constantly ask. I don't be saying I'm gonna have it. That's for what time the fuck all this is recorded. Yeah, like we ain't got no proof.

SPEAKER_04 35:07

You may or may have not have flexed about the French toast.

SPEAKER_01 35:10

I brought the fucking French toast.

SPEAKER_04 35:12

Yeah, well I'm saying, like, you know.

SPEAKER_01 35:16

I'm sorry. Ain't nobody playing in your face.

SPEAKER_04 35:22

It took a minute.

SPEAKER_01 35:22

I have my crew and cheese in the oven right now.

SPEAKER_04 35:24

I'm excited.

SPEAKER_01 35:26

Jackass.

SPEAKER_04 35:27

For whom?

SPEAKER_01 35:28

Y'all niggas. The fuck?

SPEAKER_03 35:30

We're leaving.

SPEAKER_01 35:30

Yeah, I got a little contain containers.

SPEAKER_03 35:33

Damn.

SPEAKER_01 35:34

I was gonna make y'all some little, well, see, never mind.

SPEAKER_03 35:36

Let me see. She was going to what? What was you gonna make with it?

SPEAKER_01 35:39

I was gonna put some little wings. I was gonna make y'all some little, you know, some little garlic parmesan.

SPEAKER_03 35:42

Would they stop making chickens?

SPEAKER_01 35:44

Nah, the chickens is in the I just didn't do it. I'm making like four different things. I woke up and I Parmesan crusted my ciabata bread for the sandwiches later, and I made my chicken for my buffalo chicken dip, and then I it's just a lot going on.

SPEAKER_03 35:58

This is some ciabata.

SPEAKER_01 36:03

I'm making these little sandwiches for the prompt send-off today.

SPEAKER_02 36:06

What's what's up? The gal fury.

SPEAKER_01 36:08

Uh, but yeah, I think it's it's what people it's what people do. Because people are intentionally sometimes like uh they they're doing by saying they're gonna do something that they end up not doing. So then there goes the disappointment. But why'd you say you were gonna do it? Does that make something? No.

SPEAKER_03 36:29

What do you mean? You mean the doing of is the so when they say something and they don't do that's the doing?

SPEAKER_01 36:37

That's the doing. Like, why are you just I don't want to say lying because maybe sometimes people aren't and and um attempting to lie, and I think that people lie to themselves. So the doing is saying something even though you know you're not gonna follow through. Like if you know you're not consistent enough to follow through with what you're going to do. I don't know why he's looking like that. Because he's trying to skirt to me.

SPEAKER_03 37:08

Nah, because she basically's been saying all day they planned in her fucking face. That's what she's trying to say. That's what she's saying.

SPEAKER_01 37:17

I just don't like for people to just not show up as they're acting. Like, if you're gonna say that you're something, you're gonna say you're gonna do something, just fucking do that or be that person.

SPEAKER_03 37:28

Yeah, like trip and it sounds like it's more you more in the don't do. Possibly. What people don't do. It's like you lying.

SPEAKER_01 37:36

But what they're doing is manipulating. Right?

SPEAKER_03 37:39

What about you, McCoy?

SPEAKER_01 37:40

I mean, I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 37:41

Are you lying? What about you? Do or don't do. Or do do.

SPEAKER_04 37:47

I knew that was coming. Whatever category, uh yeah, I guess it would be the don't do it. Like if you know for a fact you're not gonna do something, but you say you will, that shit I think draws me off the m wall more than anything else. It's like if you know you're not gonna do it, don't just don't tell me you're gonna do it.

SPEAKER_01 38:07

Don't commit. He said it better than me. Way better. I know. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03 38:11

No, he did, but you was trying to make I was like, yeah, take it ahead. You're trying to do all some other shit. Well, no, it's do, but what is but it's when you don't do it, so it's you do and the do. I was like, what? So it's the don't do.

SPEAKER_04 38:26

Because if you know you're not up to it, just yeah, tell me that. Be the brutally honest nigga, be the brutally honest nigga from the get-go.

SPEAKER_00 38:36

More words, and I'm like, yeah, that. Kevin was like, okay.

SPEAKER_03 38:44

Oh Lord. Man, shut up. What? I just said, oh Lord, that's fucking okay. What's up? Shut up. No, that you can't remix.

SPEAKER_01 38:55

No, I do. Did y'all see Trick Daddy up there dancing when they got mad at him?

Being Seen And Wanting Acceptance

SPEAKER_03 38:59

Yeah. Nickel's, okay. But he told him he ain't doing no editing. He's Trick Daddy. Y'all know who y'all hired? Why would I edit myself at a concert? Like, that's them. Full of adults. Right.

SPEAKER_00 39:13

Old ass adults at that.

SPEAKER_02 39:16

Do you guys think uh people really see you for who you are? I don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_03 39:26

God damn. I believe them.

SPEAKER_01 39:30

I do too.

SPEAKER_03 39:31

Don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_01 39:32

I feel like those Why do you not care so much?

SPEAKER_03 39:35

Well, let me address. Let me answer the question, together.

SPEAKER_01 39:40

Oh, he said he's giving it a second, he's giving it a second part.

SPEAKER_03 39:43

Go ahead. What kind of person do you want people to see? There we go. I already know where you're going, so fuck it. Let's go. I don't give a fuck. I don't give a fuck. Fuck them. I feel like the people that know me know who I am. And those that don't, are those that are not privy to know me on a personal level outside of uh just seeing me on a clip or a podcast or hearing my voice, if you don't act, you've never had a conversation. If you've had a conversation with me, you know me. And if I if I've put enough energy in it to have a conversation with you and get to know you outside of uh just a uh social uh area, then you know that I'm a I'm a I'm a pretty solid dude. I'm not gonna I'm not gonna bullshit you. And I and I don't really give a fuck about nobody else's opinion. So do you think that's from how you show up for them then? That's how they view you or something. I show up for niggas that when I feel like it.

SPEAKER_01 40:31

Why you always have the nigga is a response?

SPEAKER_00 40:34

Like he can't even help him. He's like, I really don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_03 40:38

I told you, I turned 40, I started rubbing my chest.

SPEAKER_00 40:40

Which I was about to say.

SPEAKER_01 40:42

You know a nigga about to say some bullshit when they rocking and ripping their legs. That's us. But they about to say some nigga shit.

SPEAKER_03 40:48

No, I just feel like I feel like my my friends know that I can sit down to my friends, and then my friends know that I will do everything I could possibly do in good faith for them if I have the capacity to do it. And so that's what I care about, right? The only perception I care about how people perceive me, if I'm being 100, it's my wife and my child. Everybody else, I don't give a fuck because I don't I don't have no responsibility to you. Everything I do for you, I'll- if you're not my wife or my child, everything I do for you is uh based off is off of love. Okay. And that and I don't do that for you, I do that for my own conscience, my own morality. Because if I say I'm gonna do something, I'll follow through. Okay. So if you ain't rocking with that, I don't give a fuck. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 41:33

So when it comes to like the perception of you though, if somebody said something to you. Wait. Oh. I thought I was hosted, nigga.

SPEAKER_04 41:42

You want to host? I think she wants to take over, Kevin. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 41:48

I'm following with shit.

SPEAKER_03 41:49

Go for it. I'm fucking with you.

SPEAKER_01 41:53

So um, if somebody makes a uh gets an idea of you, right, and it's not true, and then they then tell you that, you're just gonna be like, I don't give a fuck.

SPEAKER_03 42:09

Yeah, nigga, nigga, you wrong.

SPEAKER_02 42:14

What do you mean? They just have the wrong idea of who he is? Okay.

SPEAKER_01 42:19

And I mean, like, not I mean, obviously, like there's there's characteristics and there's like things, and then there's like who you who you are, like as a father and a and a you know, we don't expect you to be who you are as a father and a dad to us.

SPEAKER_03 42:33

You gotta fuss my face with that. But what do you what do you uh like what kind of person do you want people to see you as? Yeah, because that's that that's the different levels. Like, I get what you're saying. Uh I mean just just see me as a real nigga. Yeah, that's um it ain't that hard. That's a whole nother layer.

SPEAKER_01 42:53

I know, right? That's a whole nother episode.

SPEAKER_03 42:55

That's a whole episode, yeah. I like nigga shit. Well, what is a real you know?

SPEAKER_01 43:00

And you looking at one, nigga.

SPEAKER_03 43:02

I like I I like I like nigga shit. I like I like I like backyard barbecues and six page. I like all backyard barbecues. I like nigga barbecues. Like cookouts, nigga.

SPEAKER_00 43:13

I don't like why do you like that?

SPEAKER_03 43:15

Nothing more. If the food is still on nigga type shit, I'm gonna do that. Be like, you got this motherfucker.

SPEAKER_04 43:25

This shit was gonna be right.

SPEAKER_03 43:27

I like nigga hamburger panties that's nothing but grease. Nah. And like quarter, I like uh that's all fat. Nasty. I'm good. I like when I show but show but three and and the ribs been on on the grill since since since two. And then cooked? And ready to go almost? No, no, no. Close. No, no, no. Oh, you said at two? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 43:48

Oh damn.

SPEAKER_03 43:50

I did that last time on X. You know, that that's when that's when that's the that's when Uncet you with the yeah, the ribs ain't gonna be done no time. But them links ready.

unknown 44:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 44:01

Go ahead and get you a link. I'm cool with that. At least they got links. Get you a link or some chicken. I'll let you know when the real done. That's what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_01 44:10

But that is the difference. Like you could be, like, you could say, like, you know, wife, I mean husband and and and father, but you still have to be who you are outside of that.

SPEAKER_03 44:22

Like, I'm I'm I'm just uh I like doing nigga shit and nerd shit. Nigga nerds. I'm a nigga. Yeah, I'm a nigga nerd. Nigga nerd.

SPEAKER_01 44:31

It's all about balance.

SPEAKER_03 44:32

And a purple box. Shake that shit.

SPEAKER_01 44:35

Um, I forgot what the question was because here I'm asking this nigga follow-up and shit.

SPEAKER_03 44:39

But you don't want to host. Nigga had a lot of questions today.

SPEAKER_01 44:42

What was the follow-up? I mean, what was the question?

SPEAKER_02 44:45

Do you think people see you for who you are or just how you show up?

SPEAKER_03 44:49

Niggas don't see her because she don't post.

SPEAKER_02 44:51

Or and follow-up is who how do you want people to see how we try and put together to see US?

SPEAKER_01 44:56

Uh-uh. You said I do. I don't feel like I do.

SPEAKER_04 45:00

I don't know if a lot. Oh, I was just saying what he was saying to her. I don't know if she caught it. What you just asked her. Uh-oh. Or what you just said.

SPEAKER_03 45:09

How push it together?

SPEAKER_01 45:10

People see how I post. What'd you say?

SPEAKER_03 45:13

I said they don't they don't see you because they'll they'll you don't post. So they don't say how you live.

SPEAKER_01 45:16

Oh. Um I forgot the damn question.

SPEAKER_03 45:19

You forgot again, didn't you?

SPEAKER_05 45:21

Yeah, you do it.

SPEAKER_01 45:22

Because these niggas is throwing me.

SPEAKER_03 45:23

You was you doing Earth Day a little too hard.

SPEAKER_01 45:28

I was basking it. I really was laying over there in the sun on Earth Day.

SPEAKER_03 45:32

That wasn't that one actually every day. That one sage. Hippyed up.

SPEAKER_01 45:37

Go ahead. One more time. Just one more game. One more game. One more game. And don't nobody say shit. How about that? Like when you ask it.

SPEAKER_02 45:43

Alright, I'm gonna ask you how you be doing the Jesus shit.

SPEAKER_03 45:46

Nigga. You think people see you for who you are or how they show how you show up for them? And how you want people to see you?

SPEAKER_01 45:57

Oh, okay. Uh the people that it's a very small few of them, but the people that really know me know. But I think that, and it bothers me even though I shouldn't give a fuck. Um it bothers me because I I know that I got a I got a lot of parts to me. So if somebody sees this, this, this, they just act like the other parts are not a thing. Um and then when another part shows up, it's like I saw somebody say the other day, like, I'm not cosplaying my relationship with God. And that made a lot of sense to me because there's so many parts of my life that are intimate for me. So I don't share them on the with the masses. But when I give a peek at it, people think that I'm cosplaying that shit when it's really my everyday life. So it shouldn't bother me, but it bothers me because those are usually things that are near and dear to my heart. So for somebody to kind of like I'll protect it. I really am. It's protect I'm protecting that and I'm protecting myself in it. So when people counter it, like you don't do that shit, like you don't know what I do. It can literally be something that I spend uh like I designate. I wouldn't even say I spend, I have things that I designate my time to every single day. Okay. But because but then on the flip side, I have to I have to remind myself you keep that intimate. So the fact that people don't know, they wouldn't know. But don't speak on shit if you don't know.

SPEAKER_03 47:39

So you think people see you? So you don't think people see you as you are? Because it sounds like a lot of motherfuckers got you fucked up. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 47:54

That's all she ever says. People do, and I just what but what'd you say? So how do you want people to see you? I mean, I think that people don't uh I think people see me.

SPEAKER_03 48:04

No, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga, nigga.

SPEAKER_05 48:06

How do you view people to see you?

SPEAKER_01 48:08

The parts that I put out, I don't know. I just I just have to hold certain things close to my heart. Let me let me know. It's just a scary question. No, nigga, she just not answering. I just I don't know how to help me.

SPEAKER_03 48:21

Let me answer this way, Sharon. What would you want people to say that oh that that's what Sharon does? That's Sharon. That's Sharon. I mean, like give me three things.

SPEAKER_01 48:33

A good person, she's a good mom, or she takes care of her kids well. Um and shit, she's kind. God damn, man. That's all we were saying, it took a lot.

SPEAKER_03 48:46

It took a lot. It took a lot.

SPEAKER_01 48:50

She loves her family. Okay. I wasn't, I wasn't under I wasn't understanding the question.

SPEAKER_03 48:57

Well, it's that's a woman thing.

SPEAKER_01 48:58

But yeah, I wasn't understanding the question.

SPEAKER_03 49:00

It's a woman thing. I just start talking about it. But yeah. Like that, we're not even talking about this.

SPEAKER_01 49:04

If I'm gonna be placed in a box, that's the box. She's a like she loves her family, she loves her kids, she takes care of her kids.

SPEAKER_03 49:11

She lies a lot about cooking when she's not.

SPEAKER_01 49:14

That's the bullshit.

SPEAKER_03 49:16

That's Facebook.

SPEAKER_01 49:18

Uh and uh yeah, she treats people well, but also don't play in her motherfucking face.

SPEAKER_03 49:25

That's the most important one. Yeah, that's the most important one.

SPEAKER_01 49:28

Why is she facing me?

SPEAKER_03 49:30

We don't know because she because she'll say that and then she she'll pray after she says that. Don't play in my fucking face.

SPEAKER_01 49:37

Don't say that. Because that's not that's why you know what? I'm glad you said that because now I have to say this. That's why I'm trying to stop cussing. Because you're not supposed to uh bless the names, the Lord's name with the same mouth that you're cursing with. So that's why I'm intentionally trying to stop cussing. So the fact that you said that, thank you for me, Daddy. That's about to help me.

SPEAKER_03 49:57

But but why are you being aggressive?

SPEAKER_01 49:59

No, because I don't like that.

SPEAKER_03 50:00

What did I not hear? I don't, I didn't hear it. You did something?

SPEAKER_01 50:04

He said that I'll say stop playing in my fucking face and then go right into prayer. What did you say and then go right into prayer? But I told him I said that that's helpful for me because that's why I'm trying to stop cussing. Like you can't be, it's in the Bible. Like, you're not supposed to bless the Lord's name in the same with the same mouth that you're cursing with. So that's why I'm intentionally trying to stop cussing because whatever. I'm gonna remember that though.

SPEAKER_02 50:28

I like it. Hey, what you doing?

SPEAKER_03 50:29

You're about to FaceTime on the case.

SPEAKER_01 50:31

No, I'm telling her that I can't right now. Sorry, yes.

SPEAKER_03 50:33

She's about to just I mean, nigga, she's she's almost hit me in the face, type. She's about to go back to question number five. What disappointment? I'm leaning I lean, I'm leaning away from you.

SPEAKER_02 50:48

Do you do you need me to repeat? Oh, you got it. I said it like nine times. I got it.

SPEAKER_03 50:51

It don't it don't matter what he gonna what he says, whatever he says, Sharon will say that's what I meant. You stupid.

SPEAKER_04 50:57

I'll say, um after with dealing with therapy, I I don't really I've grown to care less and less about what people perceive of me. Okay. Uh, but what I want people to see or understand of me, uh, if I give a fuck in the moment, is that I was a confused kid that grew up different and was able to maneuver and get through life um with uh a very, very weird upbringing and just was able to figure it out and just just wants to be accepted, uh just be a thumbs up by every like like if if you can look at the other person and say, you know what, they did good, they took care of the family, they did this, they did that, and you got through it without fucking killing yourself, then we should all be uh awarded that grace. That's it.

SPEAKER_03 51:54

Yeah. Because he said what he said, great. He said a lot of great things.

SPEAKER_01 52:00

He did. That wasn't what I was thinking.

SPEAKER_03 52:01

Because the whole the whole concept of uh of uh acceptance is what is something that we all naturally seek for.

SPEAKER_01 52:07

Hearing what people think as exceptions is not accepted.

SPEAKER_03 52:11

As as kids, that's what you look for. You want acceptance. You want acceptance from your peers. You just said that's what we all think. I mean, what I meant to say is that's what we all go through.

SPEAKER_01 52:18

Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_03 52:19

Right, gotcha. As you get older and you start to really come into your own. Come into your own and and separate the bullshit from the real, you you understand that everyone's exceptions are ain't needed.

SPEAKER_01 52:31

Right. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_03 52:32

But that don't that still don't mean every everybody wants there's no person that doesn't want some form of validation from some person. And that's that's all it is. I think as we get older, it it switches from uh uh acceptance to validation.

SPEAKER_00 52:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 52:48

To the people we care about, not not the fucking in different areas, right?

SPEAKER_01 52:52

Because you still want the validation of you being a good fighter.

SPEAKER_03 52:55

Because I'm gonna let you if that mac and cheese is trash, I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna validate you or not. Anyways, brutally honest. Not keeping the peace.

SPEAKER_00 53:04

Not be mindful, y'all.

SPEAKER_03 53:06

But you see how I tie everything back?

SPEAKER_00 53:10

Y'all are bad.

SPEAKER_04 53:11

In contrast, if it wasn't bad for me, I just would never ask for it again.

SPEAKER_00 53:16

Yeah, I should butcher that shit.

SPEAKER_03 53:18

Yeah, that would be uh that would be a good way of keeping the peace. Like, uh you're not gonna butcher it because you don't want to, you don't want to know what I did.

SPEAKER_01 53:25

No, I'm gonna keep it a buck on camera.

SPEAKER_03 53:27

Jeez.

SPEAKER_01 53:28

My I came out here and I left my kid in charge of the noodles, and she did let that shit sit in there for too long.

SPEAKER_03 53:34

Is that what you was yelling at? Yeah, she I told you, I thought I'd be like, I don't tell you about the coaching.

SPEAKER_01 53:38

Yeah, I don't play about my shit. So she went there, she was like, oh my god. Yeah, because the thing is she turned the noodles off and left them in the water. She was like, but I turned them off. Nigga, the water is hot as fuck. They're still cooking. Yeah. So if the shit is mushy, I dare you to say something, but because I already put it out. How are you gonna dare him? Nigga, I won't make it. I'm not even about to get it.

SPEAKER_03 53:57

That shit was mushy. I know how trash.

SPEAKER_01 54:01

I really like put a lot of intention in my cooking, and that's gonna be not today. I would have pissed you off. Plus, I put part in my cooking. There's a little critique. Nah. Everybody got a little critique. I'm gonna taste it when it's done. If I feel like it's a good one. I just want to be a good person.

SPEAKER_02 54:17

That's it. That's all I want. People see me as a good person. That's all. That's it.

SPEAKER_03 54:21

You're a pretty good person. Sometimes you're too good of a.

SPEAKER_01 54:24

So don't you have to care? Doesn't that how doesn't that remove, I don't give a fuck how people what people think?

SPEAKER_03 54:31

I mean, if they don't, I've had people think I'm shitty. It's like it ain't changed one day.

SPEAKER_04 54:38

In that aspect of what I look at how Kevin says it is like he it's not about what other people think, it's more or less about what he wants to feel. Like he wants to be a good person. So if they don't feel he's a good person, but he's still trying to be one.

SPEAKER_01 54:51

Yeah, but if they don't feel like you're a good person, then we'll probably not be in the same orbit.

SPEAKER_03 54:56

Yeah. I fuck with that. I just don't give a fuck if they feel like it's a little bit more.

SPEAKER_04 55:02

I think he says he's just saying it in a more uh earthy way. We're aware. Yeah, in an earthy way. He's saying the same thing, just in an earthy way.

SPEAKER_01 55:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 55:09

I don't give a fuck, but from a higher point.

SPEAKER_03 55:13

I'm a very honest person. If I don't fuck with you, I'll tell you I don't fuck with you. Same thing. I've seen it. Actually, I know, but like more likely they won't be in your orbit. Yeah, no, if I tell them I don't fuck with them, they're not because I'm gonna make sure they don't come around. Some people are weird. Yeah, you're right.

SPEAKER_01 55:30

They that's the pick means. They still want to be in your face, even though you're like, I've made it clear that I don't really like you. Is your insurance paid up? You gonna fucking fall? No, I'm gonna go. No, I'm damn what just happened?

SPEAKER_00 55:43

Who came over here to sue me?

SPEAKER_03 55:47

I'm gonna let your ass hit me and fall. We gotta go. They pay for that. Yeah, okay. Yeah, it happened on it. It happened on space for like shit. No, you can have shit outside your pro. You can get in a fight and somebody shoot. I thought like if you obviously. I'm gonna pay you out on this home insurance. It probably goes up a lot. Yeah, and they might probably drop you. Yeah. But yeah. Any hoosier. Um fuck the hoosiers.

Bougie Traits And Everyday Luxuries

SPEAKER_01 56:14

Period.

SPEAKER_03 56:15

What's your bougie trait? Ooh. Yeah, we're gonna close with that. I got a lot. Yeah, let's do them. Fuck it. I'm learning that I'm very bougie. I'm bougie as a motherfucker. I am for sure. How are you bougie and love all this hood shit?

SPEAKER_01 56:29

I was thinking of saying, I know. We we need to unpack that a little bit.

SPEAKER_03 56:34

We got the red solo cup like this. Because I'm because I'm drinking, I'm eating. I'm eating beef ribs, nigga. That's how I'm okay.

SPEAKER_01 56:41

Because that was expensive.

SPEAKER_03 56:42

Okay, I'm bougie. I'm getting bougie with my alcohol these days now, too. I don't drink no more. Yeah, like if I'm out, it's like more than likely I'm not doing your well, buddy. You know what? I I'm at the age now where I can only do name brand canned goods. Ooh, like the amount. Yeah. You ain't doing the staters. Nigga, don't bring no great value cans. I'm gonna be pissed among take that shit back. I I don't know what this is.

SPEAKER_01 57:08

Well, you just made me think about one of my bougie traits. I ain't fucking with shit in no can. Nothing.

SPEAKER_03 57:14

Nothing?

SPEAKER_01 57:14

Nothing. Not even condensed milk. Condensed milk, evaporated milk. I was about to say those are the assets.

SPEAKER_03 57:18

But it better be the it better be the name brand one with the cartoon.

SPEAKER_01 57:21

I'll get the great value. Uh I used it for the macaroni and cheese. It's a great value of evaporated milk in there right now.

SPEAKER_03 57:27

Well, if you do corn, you're just gonna cut it off the cop.

SPEAKER_01 57:29

Yes. Oh my god, I would never have a canned vegetables were the first to go. Let me just start with that. I like the I like my street corn and the corner if if anything, get the frozen one. Don't eat that shit out of no kind of.

SPEAKER_03 57:46

Oh, also I don't eat uh uh off-brand frozen vegetables either. It gotta be named Ranch.

SPEAKER_01 57:52

Y'all eating frozen vegetables too?

SPEAKER_03 57:54

If I hey nigga, yes. Oh my bad. You judging? Yeah. Nigga, and we we mentioned you, you on air. We don't, we don't work from home, nigga. We gotta get it when we talking to everybody but the podcast.

SPEAKER_01 58:05

Wait, what? I played your ass. I'm sorry. It's a big thing.

SPEAKER_03 58:12

What's your bougie trait? Dela?

SPEAKER_01 58:15

Not a lot of them, though.

SPEAKER_03 58:16

He only puts 91 in his car. No.

SPEAKER_04 58:19

Never.

SPEAKER_01 58:20

I'll be like, that shit saying that.

SPEAKER_04 58:22

And I'm angry with myself. Um I think uh what I listen to as far as uh music. I don't listen to anything that's uh trash. No mix? No mix. It has to be a certain quality of a lyricist. If I if it if it goes past a certain point, I won't listen. So if they if they very, very dumbed down, or uh if the content's trash, my brain will literally cut shut off. I'll listen to this shit. Tut the shit off.

SPEAKER_03 58:56

I think my most bougie is thing is that I will get in the fast track. Just to get in the fast track. I can feel that.

SPEAKER_01 59:04

It ain't even no traffic.

SPEAKER_03 59:06

Yeah, no traffic.

SPEAKER_01 59:07

That shit.

SPEAKER_03 59:09

Just to show them niggas. Yeah, I'm over here. I'm over here, nigga.

SPEAKER_01 59:13

Especially if I got three people in the car. It's a definite.

SPEAKER_03 59:17

For sure.

unknown 59:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 59:18

I don't know. So you just that nigga. Oh yeah. It'd be three in the morning. I'm just over there.

SPEAKER_04 59:24

A bougie trick would be the tractor thing.

SPEAKER_03 59:26

Uh, you ain't taking a specific.

SPEAKER_04 59:28

I only drive Mac at work. So you ain't gonna do the other ones. No Peter Bilts. They all the I I literally switched up with another drive because he didn't like Macs. And he knows I do. Okay. I feel that. I feel that. And if you notice if I take pictures, I have to be in a nice tractor. I won't. If I have a shitty tractor, you'll never see me post that picture. That's some bougie shit.

SPEAKER_01 59:50

Anyway, that's a Yeah, I got I have a lot. I think is it bougie that like top 10?

SPEAKER_03 59:56

Can we be a top 10 bullshit? I need seat coolers in the car.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:02

Oh, coolers? We got the warmers. Coolers. That's that's new. Hold on, Kevin. You just revived.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:08

So Phoenix has uh discovered that we have uh, you know, heated and cooled seats in the car. So now when she gets to the front, she pushes all the buttons. Is that uh she like, why can't we have this back there? Because it's ain't put back there. This is for the niggas that pay for the car up front.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:26

I can't go ahead and go. And I got mad because mine's don't.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:34

Just get new seats. Did you say just get new seats? Yeah. I guess you could, dude. Yeah, it'd be cheaper to get in the car.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:41

It wouldn't be. It wouldn't be. I was like, y'all got massage and seats now? Sure. I just I was hyped about the cool, the heated and cool. Now you got massages?

SPEAKER_03 1:00:49

You'll know what's like how your ball's coat off on the hot.

SPEAKER_04 1:00:57

You'll never know. I've never I still marked that shit too. I was like, I'll never go back to not having a heads-up display.

SPEAKER_05 1:01:03

Oh, yeah?

SPEAKER_04 1:01:04

I can't. I got used to it. You see your fucking speedometer in the fucking windshield.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:09

I'm still not good at that. I haven't gotten used to it. You still look down? Yeah, I still, and then I'll be looking, I'm like, why am I looking down? It's right in my face. That shit will save you when you see how it patrols. What's your traits? I'm pissed. Why? Bougie. Her trait is that she don't like when people fuck up her food. Yeah. What's wrong?

SPEAKER_01 1:01:28

Uh yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:31

Um good.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:31

I'm bougie at like restaurants because I don't I know how to cook, so I don't like a lot of shit, if that makes sense.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:39

But what you mean you bougie at restaurants? Like this nigga go to Del Taco and bike. These ain't fried right.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:46

Well, maybe people consider this bougie, but it's not really bougie. It's just that fast food is trash and nasty, and I don't, I don't go to no, there's no fast food place.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:55

You don't like fries? Yeah, but what's bougie? What's your bougie, Trey? You just don't like fast food. Wait, hold on, wait a minute. But no, I'm saying some people, right? Wait a minute. Nigga, you said you like the fries from In N Out.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:06

In N Out is the only fast food place I'll go to. That's what I said. That's what I meant.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:09

In and Out has the worst fries. They do.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:12

I like their fries because that's the only place I'll go to.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:14

Um taco has the best fries. Fair.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:18

Uh people call that consider that bougie because you don't go to fast food places. Nah, nigga.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:22

I'm not giving you that. You go to Chipotle. Oh, do you?

SPEAKER_01 1:02:26

I said it was. Do you go to Chipotle? They said one. Not really. I make Chipotle all the time. That's what my own. I'm sorry, you make shit pole.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:32

We talked about that. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:34

I don't really go to Chipotle. It's expensive too. So I don't, that's what I'm saying. I don't really know if Nigga, you live you in the rich neighborhood. Um expensive. Uh people, I don't answer my phone after a certain time of night.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:47

No, that's my phone throughout the day.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:48

That's my time. That's not bullshit at all. I don't know. Oh, you know what? I uh the economy sucks right now, and everybody's broken, including me. So not so much lately, but I had gotten to a point in my life where I was ready to pay for the service of anything. Ooh.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:03

Yeah, damn. Yeah, I was like, wow. Wow. Nickel bum. Damn. Well, you pay for what? Yeah, it's about to be blowing up. So uh it's it's Sharon on Instagram. She she will pay for your services.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:31

Oh, that was crazy. You said it. I did.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:35

You instantly regretted that. You're like, damn, I shouldn't let me like.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:39

I will, I really instantly pay for meaning, like putting shit together, uh, all of that type of shit. Moving, like I'm gonna pay for it.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:51

I think I'm on a lot of that shit. I'm bougie with that. Yeah. I'm not moving nothing.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:56

But I scaled back.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:57

I'll pack the shit, but I'm not loading up no trucks and shit no more. I think uh I'm not doing that. Yeah at my big age, I'll pay a smoker.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:08

Oh, I you know what? And I don't know. Maybe I ain't supposed to say this, but I'll go to Home Depot in a heartbeat. If I need to. No, no more.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:14

You're not doing that.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:15

No, they be there.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:16

Where? They there. I was kidding, I seen if you was gonna snitch. You told right on them. They there. The glasses, yeah, I know. Go burn them. Fans, I had to test. She got the glasses I had to test. You know what? You know what your bougie thing is?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:33

I used to have a cleaning lady, but since I work from home, I don't need her no more.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:36

You know what the Joe Bougie thing is? Nigga, you literally said that you didn't want to record because you didn't have eyelashes on. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:42

Um, but I'm recording though.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:44

Yeah, yeah, but you it at first you it just ate your soul. Yeah. Grinded your gears.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:49

I'm just like, I don't, I don't prefer it, but I'm gonna do it.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:51

That's why you ain't taking glasses off. I'll give you that. That's bougie. That's bougie.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:56

Is that bougie? Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:58

Nigga, you work in a sunroom, cuz. Yeah, yeah. You got it's it's bougie.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:04

This ain't bougie. It ain't even I'll wait, wait till it's really put together, then it's gonna be bougie.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:08

Damn.

Wrap Up And Quick Goodbye

SPEAKER_04 1:05:09

Oh, so it's about to get bougie.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:11

Huh? It's about to get bougie.

SPEAKER_04 1:05:12

Yeah, it's round about palm trees.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:14

Isn't there I you want to know that that's one of my favorite parts of being out here? It's like all of the mature trees. Yeah, my whole neighborhood. That's what I love about my neighborhood. We know you're rich.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:24

Stop telling. You telling us why.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:28

No, it'd be the nice neighborhood that got the little skinny ass trees.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:32

You're telling yourself now.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:33

Hey, man, you gotta be in an old neighborhood. But that I'm saying like the new developments, that's why I will never not live in an older home because I love the maturity of the neighborhood and and the vegetation. Shit.

SPEAKER_03 1:05:47

Nah. The weed? Huh? Nothing. No. Hey, guess what? We done. That's weird episode 241. Heavyweight collective.

SPEAKER_04 1:06:00

Like.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:01

Subscribe. Share all that shit. We've been great. Y'all been awesome. Sharon been bougie. Yeah. She she bougie don't even know what it sounds like.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:10

I guess not.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:12

Until next time. Peace.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:17

Sweaty. That's rep, you know. That's that's how she wrote. So make sure you click like, subscribe. Tune in, we're on the Austrian platform. So until next time. Well hi at you.