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Emotional intelligence sounds good in theory, but it gets real when you’re tested in the moment. In this episode of The Heavyweight Collective, the conversation starts with a workplace class and quickly turns into a deeper breakdown of what emotional intelligence actually looks like when you’re triggered, stressed, or pushed to your limit.

This isn’t about buzzwords—it’s about real-life application. From learning when to pause instead of react, to understanding why people escalate situations, the discussion dives into self-awareness, emotional regulation, and the discipline it takes to respond like yourself instead of your emotions.

The conversation also challenges how we think about empathy. It’s not just about being nice—it’s about understanding someone’s perspective without excusing their behavior or sacrificing your own peace. From there, the episode gets into boundaries, communication, and the gray areas that come with both.

If you’ve ever struggled with reacting in the moment, setting clear boundaries, or dealing with emotionally charged situations, this episode gives you the language and perspective to handle it better.

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Cold Open And Catch-Up

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Like we're all gonna just die right here then. Fuck it.

SPEAKER_01

Like Diddy.

SPEAKER_00

Diddy is like he did it. Yeah, he did. Diddy did it. This is episode 237 of the heavyweight podcast. Welcome back, everybody. I'm Sharon.

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The Heavyweight Collective.

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The Heavyweight Collective. Applause.

SPEAKER_01

I think he waited because you said that the podcast.

SPEAKER_00

Welcome back. This is the Heavyweight Collective. I am your host for today, Sharon. Or you could have done the. Oh, wait. Woo! I'm gonna try my best to keep everything in order today. What do you guys? Who are you guys are interested in?

SPEAKER_02

I'm just I'm I'm I'm just a Bill and I'm living off the capital.

SPEAKER_04

Oh hello, Rock. Well, I'm Kevin and I'm a Virgo.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, B2K. Nah, that's the the side show. I thought that was Oh wait, what is it?

SPEAKER_04

Cancer. And my name is Larry.

SPEAKER_00

No, you're talking about like the 80s shit. B2K did that shit too. No, no, no.

SPEAKER_04

Because they stole it. I care from the old niggas. I can't stand B2K. What?

SPEAKER_03

Man, I felt old at a party one day where it was like, they were like, we can play some old school, like B2K. And I was like, what did this bitch say?

SPEAKER_00

Like that's like hearing uh California Love on Cola 99. It's like why this is not a whole thank you very much. It is nasty shit.

SPEAKER_01

Ray Ray Binkins.

SPEAKER_02

Why you gotta be so nasty, Ray? Because I'm a nasty motherfucker. You're stupid.

SPEAKER_00

I love that movie. Okay, so you guys.

SPEAKER_02

Sorry about your mama. Yeah, she passed about 10 years ago.

SPEAKER_00

He's annoyed. Isn't that crazy that they that they're they're grandfathers like to the same kid?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

That's crazy. I think that's kind of cool.

SPEAKER_02

Martin Garden's fine as fuck, though.

A Work Class On Emotional Intelligence

SPEAKER_00

Is she? Shut up. Um so you guys, this week at work, I had like this class. Oh, first of all, I had to go into work. I put on regular clothes.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, wow. Hey. It was a dress. Wait, I met it. Yeah, let's do that.

SPEAKER_00

It was kind of weird. It was brushed my teeth in the morning. Got myself together. Brushed her teeth? And I went to work together. Or on it was on Wednesday. It was pretty cool. I wore a dress.

SPEAKER_02

That's crazy. They waited to gas was uh high enough dress pussy to make you go to work.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I didn't really go to work. Um, I signed up for this class. My my HR is rolling out these little self-development classes, and the class that we went to was emotional intelligence. And I thought it was really, really cool. I mean, I want to talk to you guys about that today.

SPEAKER_01

So when you walked into work, so we're gonna be in a class.

SPEAKER_04

Did people recognize you? Yeah, we're gonna be in a class.

SPEAKER_00

Did people recognize you?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, or was it like who's gonna be a good thing?

SPEAKER_00

Um, I think people think that I don't work there anymore. Oh, probably like so at my job, there was my there's where there were my immediate co-workers who obvious what like that I got promoted or whatever, so they knew. But there's so many, like the attorneys, the deputies, like the judges who would see me on a day-to-day, but they don't they're not in the end of what you know is happening. So I did run into people, it was like, Where have you been? Like, and I know the the undertone was probably like, damn, I thought you didn't work here anymore. Um, so I did get that a lot. Generally, if you just stop seeing someone, you're like, But usually the reaction to me is like, oh my god, you look so happy. Because yeah, I I couldn't tell. Shut up.

SPEAKER_04

Well, we didn't see her when she had to go in.

SPEAKER_00

That's usually the reaction. They could tell that working home from home is is working in my life. But anyway, so back to our topic. So, what do you guys think of when you think of emotional intelligence? Like, how would you give that without honest, obviously knowing that there's a textbook definition of it? Like, what is your definition of emotion? And do you think you have emotion? God damn, two parts. Yeah. It's gonna feel like an interview.

SPEAKER_04

Uh-oh. I don't think everybody has emotional intelligence at all, no. I know, I don't.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, styling is delirious.

SPEAKER_04

I think I'm emotionally aware and intelligent. I I think it comes with uh knowing like what you're going through and how to like deal with it. Like, not necessarily knowing how to deal with it, understanding that sometimes you're not gonna know the how. Sometimes you might have to go reach out and get help. Sometimes you might have to like sit back and let things come to you. Like you can't like force thing. And I feel like that's the intelligence of it. It's like a lot of people try to like push certain things the way they feel, like you can feel anger and like just drive it out. But it's like, is that always the right? It's like sometimes hell yeah, anger is the right reaction, but it's like how you display it, I guess.

SPEAKER_00

So it's like they're being aware of the tools that you gather.

SPEAKER_04

Because awareness is just like the awareness of, okay, I feel this.

SPEAKER_00

No, now what? That's true. But emotional intelligence is how to how you're gonna be able to. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

So having the understanding of knowing that you need to seek like outside.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I feel like that's an intelligent move. Shit. If you don't know how to fix something, you go, hey, either you gonna do it or show me how to do it.

SPEAKER_02

So I ain't doing shit.

SPEAKER_04

And nobody's gonna fix your own emotions. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01

I think I'm getting there.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I saw your face too. You were so serious. Would you like to answer the question, Mo?

SPEAKER_03

I no. But I will.

SPEAKER_00

This is how I told.

SPEAKER_02

Um, I I do feel like I I have become emotionally intelligent. I I know how to I know how to identify.

SPEAKER_00

He's trying to get himself.

SPEAKER_02

I'm trying to I'm trying to see how I'm gonna say this. I know how to identify crazy. I know I know how to identify most of my triggers and understand what emotion I'm feeling in the moment and how I got there. Now I'm able to regulate how I move accordingly. And a lot of times, my response to a lot of shit is just to walk away, step away before I say some shit I can't go back from. Um so um That was the question right.

SPEAKER_00

Somewhat. Kevin started us off, just kind of kept it.

SPEAKER_02

Damn, is that what we're doing?

SPEAKER_04

Well, I I started with the wrong and then came to the right. Crazy. I knew what I was doing. I had to do it. Yeah, you didn't crazy.

SPEAKER_02

So yeah, I do see myself as somewhat emotional. I'm I'm not saying it's perfect, but it's better than what it was.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I mean Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yes, nigga, you you the one who did the class.

SPEAKER_00

He's like, you should have the right answer. God damn it. Oh, you guys are funny.

SPEAKER_02

Um Do you remember your question? Gotta run it back because she didn't write it down.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, we freestyle in the day. Um to me, emotional intelligence, it's like it's just um, it guides me. So, I mean, I guess that's not the definition of it, but definition wise. I know definition-wise, I guess. Sorry. Okay. Um, I think that it's awareness and it's a lot of it is just awareness, right? And how to move um with your awareness, right? So, in terms of like interacting with other people, that's how I'll kind of frame it. Um, if you have emotional intelligence, then you're aware of not only yourself, but you're aware of that other person and how to navigate different situations.

SPEAKER_04

Sounds like you're like, I know how I'm gonna react if I'm around these motherfuckers. So I'm just not gonna be around the motherfuckers.

SPEAKER_00

That's emotional intelligence. Um, you know, no, um, it I think that to me, a big umbrella with that that is within self-I mean, um, emotional intelligence is self-awareness.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Um, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Sorry, there's a certain amount of empathy that's involved too.

SPEAKER_00

Of course. Um, and that was kind of leading um, but also on the second end of things, when I the or the second part of my question was like, do you feel like you have it? I think that I try to cultivate it. And I think that it's one of those things that you're not gonna have it just down pack, but it's something that I work on cultivating.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I feel that.

SPEAKER_00

Um how does empathy play a part? Is what I was gonna ask.

SPEAKER_02

Empathy plays a good a good part in life, period. Because if you when you're empathetic, you can understand. You have a I've I personally feel like when you're empathetic to a situation, you have a clear picture of the situation. And you don't take everything at face value because a lot of times, just because you may be emotionally intelligent or know how to regulate doesn't mean the person you're dealing with knows how to.

SPEAKER_05

Right.

SPEAKER_02

So a lot of people don't really get clarity until the the hindsight part of the situation, which is which is a lot of instances bad for them because a lot of times they blow shit up and then they're like, Man, I fucked up. Yeah, you fucked up.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Now we can talk about what happened, but it doesn't change what happened.

SPEAKER_00

But going into it with empathy.

SPEAKER_02

Right, right. So you you have to and and I I, for one, I try to give everyone empathy. Um, but that doesn't mean also giving empathy doesn't mean you don't have boundaries. Like I I can understand where you're coming from. That don't mean I'm gonna change how I feel about the situation. It'll still fuck you. If if that's what if that was my conclusion. Um, because you still did what you did. So it's just like in any type of situation, any type of relationship, you can't change, you can't change what was done, but you can understand what was done and what led to that decision being made. And that's part of the empathy. But that doesn't change how I react or how I feel about what was done. Did I answer that correctly? I don't want to be like him.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, you did. What clap for yourself, go ahead and do it.

SPEAKER_02

I'm I'm good. Wow.

SPEAKER_00

Um, but empathy play a part. Does empathy play a part for you personally? Does empathy think it does?

SPEAKER_04

I mean, I had to scale back. You just give him too much? Yeah. Fuck yeah, I didn't even realize. Hell yeah. If you I was talking to my therapist, she's like, you're tripping, man. Like, you can't save the goddamn world. Can't save them all. It's like some niggas gotta die. That's empathy, but like empathy for yourself too. Like, get the fuck out of here.

SPEAKER_00

Like, I think at a at a ground level of thinking of it, though, empathy just starts with you just making to put yourself in the other person's shoes, right?

SPEAKER_04

Sometimes. Sometimes I look at it where I was like, there's sometimes you gotta like understand, I can't, I can't even be in your shoes. Like, how the fuck am I? I couldn't even like fathom to understand what you're going through. But I'm saying that's a part of empathy too, to even understand to like step back, shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_00

I could never be in Shaq's shoes, no matter how hard I'm gonna do. Man, I'm mad you said that.

SPEAKER_04

This this motherfucker at the Puma store did that shit to me. I was like, can I get a size 12? She's like, Where are the 12s one of 13? And I'm like, I'm all a 40. Like my shoes, my feet ain't growing into these motherfuckers.

SPEAKER_00

Like she said that, like, any nigga that wear over a 12, wear every all the other stuff. What's the difference, nigga?

SPEAKER_03

If you want 12, you might go for a 100.

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If it's a narrow 12 or a narrow 13, it might be at work.

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It works because it'll hug your foot.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I remember that.

SPEAKER_03

I'll just like nah. I'm gonna just leave, lady. Like what the fuck is wrong with you?

Road Rage And Everyday Grace

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I think it's important though to like make the attempt to try to. So, okay, I was I was coming from the and um people were merging into a lane. It was traffic, right? Um, leaving. So we weren't.

SPEAKER_02

It was terrible.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah, right.

SPEAKER_02

It don't matter which one you're at.

SPEAKER_00

I've already painted the picture. We all know what that looks like. And people were just saying the most horrible things to each other. Like you fucking stupid ass. Like it was just so they're all white. Fucking beat.

SPEAKER_01

Uh that was impersonation.

SPEAKER_04

That was I like how she disclaimed that after like we didn't pick that up. Yeah, it was it was very white.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like Drusky.

SPEAKER_02

Drusky didn't feel bad at all.

SPEAKER_00

My bad. Um, it was just so like some guy, some guy wasn't even driving. He was walking, he's like, Yeah, but you're a fucking piece of shit. Like, yeah, just it was so crazy. And I'm just thinking to myself, like, nobody like I think when I'm driving sometimes, like you don't know what's happening in that person's car. Now, merging and we're all moving slow, and then it's just like people not letting people over and then all that type of stuff. But like, I know sometimes on the freeway, like I have a five-year-old, like I might I might do some bullshit. That's what I'm getting at, right? Not anything where I hate anybody or anything, but I might do some bullshit. And then it's like, here comes the person, like laying on the horn, doing all of this all in my car. And it's just like nobody takes the time. Like, yeah, I don't have the time to pull that person over and say, Hey, I don't, I'm not in your shoes today. Tell me what's going on. Like, I don't have the time for that. But at a base level, I can be empathetic and just be like, you know what? I don't know what they got going on. Maybe that person is on their way to the hospital, and that's why they're driving.

SPEAKER_02

No, you said that you remind me having the other day. Uh, I was literally coming down the street and she turned out in front of me, and then she realized how fast I was going, so she had to speed up, and then she got next to me and looked at me. I was like, Bitch, you turned in front of me. Why are you looking at me? I'm the one you turned in front of me. Like, I had to hit my brakes so I wouldn't even hit you.

SPEAKER_01

Listening to people are crazy. Happened to Hunter made me have a certain amount of empathy.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but motherfucker followed him. Yeah, it makes them. It makes funny. I was like, yo.

SPEAKER_00

What? What happened?

SPEAKER_01

Like a long way.

SPEAKER_00

Was he being the asshole and then the guy followed?

SPEAKER_04

Well, you know, Hunter combination. No, if you know Hunter, he's a little bit of a health. I think I'm gonna give him that one because I don't have to get over because you want to race.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I mean, I just feel like you never know what's happening in that car.

SPEAKER_02

You never know, like, you know, you never know what's happening in that person's life at the moment. Some people some people just they they they see you as a way to take the vent. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

But I ain't the one to play with, nigga.

SPEAKER_04

I just know it depends on my how I'm rolling. It's just me, I'm that's fine. But if I get the kids, I'm gonna just go ahead, honk the horn.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Uh, because my therapist asked me, like, so do you feel like do you ever take in consideration what your mom went through in her life before you know you were even born and and what parts that plays and how she dealt with you growing up? And I said, I try to be empathetic as possible because I couldn't imagine what she was going through. So I try to take that that stance because m my grandmother was a fucked up person, but um, you know, there's the big thing about empathy was just understanding that like what she dealt to your mother then played a part in what happened to you. So instead of like looking at my mom with blame, I had to have some sort of empathy to understand that she went through her life, went through her story, went through her struggles, and then that in turn is what led to how she had to deal with me. So it was like, yeah, you just have to have a certain amount of empathy to understand that her struggles are her struggles, and it has nothing to do with me, but just understand and give her grace where she was coming from.

SPEAKER_00

And that's a I think, and it it leads to like then you start to right because yes, I can give you grace, empathetic, but I can still choose to to have a boundary just because I'm now empathetic to what your walk looked like, and you know what I mean? And I I'm giving you grace, but if you're still doing bullshit because of what your walk looked like, I can still set boundaries.

SPEAKER_02

I hear everything you're saying, but I believe that my dad, like, nigga, you lying.

SPEAKER_00

Wait, what do you mean?

SPEAKER_02

Nigga, you lying your ass off. What do you mean in terms of like what you in terms of the excuses a nigga try to give as why you wasn't around?

SPEAKER_00

There's excuses and there's circumstances. There's two different things. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_02

The nigga lying.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. He said, let's start with the nigga is a liar.

SPEAKER_02

Because if I knew where I was gonna be at, I knew you knew where I was gonna be at. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Like I like, you know, I said my grandfather at the same church on 92nd and Western for fucking 40 goddamn years, and you knew three three days out the week I'd be there. Nigga, if you wanted to see me, it wasn't hard to find me. Yeah, get the fuck out of here. I don't want to hear that shit. So don't loan, don't sit here and lie to me, nigga.

SPEAKER_00

And that's not yeah, because if somebody's lying, that really pathetic to it, because you're just fucking lying. Like, I don't, there's no need to.

SPEAKER_02

But you know how niggas get they get old and they start they start recapping their life and they hear it, and then they feel sorry, and then they now and he niggas tell nigga all the time, nigga, you doing too much, nigga. I'm over that shit. You doing too fucking much.

SPEAKER_00

I I feel bad sometimes.

SPEAKER_04

Sorry. I was like, dude, be like got you this teddy, man.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, nigga, you doing too much. That nigga that nigga said you gonna buy your dad a drink. I said, nah, nigga, just uh talk another one of presents I didn't get.

SPEAKER_01

It's very uh it's awkward if you ever see the interaction to him as dad and it's in front of you, he don't give a fuck. So like you'd be like, ooh shit. Like, I don't know if I'm supposed to hear this conversation.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, nigga.

SPEAKER_00

And those are boundaries, right?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. The cool thing about boundaries is you can move them.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. What do you mean?

SPEAKER_04

They don't have to always stay the same.

SPEAKER_02

They can be adjusted.

SPEAKER_00

I like that, Kevin. That's a good point.

SPEAKER_02

Sometimes sometimes, you know, you expand the property, sometimes you sell it back. Hey man, I put a gate.

SPEAKER_04

Just don't put the doorbell first. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

I think I I've had like conversations with friends where you know, maybe I'm talking about somebody that I have like a strong boundary with, and they're just always like, well, you know, people. That's good. I mean, it's like, yes, but do they? No, they I think people change. This is what I'll say. Everyone sitting here right now has a self-aware to the extent where, or not the extent, um, to the point where you're you're doing things actively to better yourself, right? Whether it be therapy or suppose. I mean mentally, y'all. I do just a lot. Um just a lot. You guys are all put the hat back on.

SPEAKER_04

I know I said fuck it. Fuck it. Boundaries.

SPEAKER_00

I just fucking I was gonna say that. Um forgot what I was saying. No, so everybody's doing something, yeah. Um, and so it's safe to say you guys fall under that group of oh, people can change. I would say that for any of you because you are actively doing something to better yourself on a day-to-day basis. There's motherfuckers that ain't doing shit. Yeah, but that's your boundary to change.

SPEAKER_04

It's your boundary to move, not theirs. It's not up to how they move.

SPEAKER_00

But no, my they might be different, but that's a that's still a pretty hard boundary. Yeah, I just feel like those aren't the people that you can give the graces because I don't think that they're making it's evident they have no intentions of changing. I think always are evolving. I don't even want to say changing because I don't think people change.

SPEAKER_02

I always say that people can change, very few make the effort. Yeah, that's yeah, that's and sometimes it's way too late.

SPEAKER_04

Where it's down the line where you're like, oh, it's never too late.

SPEAKER_02

They're just saying where it's just comfortable. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, yeah. People do what's comfortable, and it's it's very uncomfortable to look at yourself and say, nigga, maybe I am the problem. Yeah, that's what it is. Maybe I gotta, maybe I gotta change the way I'm looking at shit and and set up different parameters for myself. Oh, yeah, that's what I'm gonna change for myself. You know, that that that's the hard part because the changes, you can you can change your surroundings all you want, but if you don't change how you move or how you how you how you process shit, you're just gonna create the same surrounding with a different group of people.

SPEAKER_04

Or it's gonna be a bunch of people that are the same doing the same shit to each other.

SPEAKER_01

That's funny because we talked about that in therapy too, because uh she was like, So uh, do you forgive your your grandmother? I said, uh I don't disrespect her. I don't I don't call her my grandmother, um, but I understand she's where she's at. And then she was like, uh, so like does she try to acknowledge what happened? I say, she'll no. She just tries to play it and swoop it under the rug. And I said, I'm not, I've never been a pretend person. I don't uh I just keep her. She was like, You know who I am? I said, I know uh you're you. And she was like, You don't acknowledge your grandmother? I said, No, I know who she is. I say, You're you. And she's like, So you just never I said I've never acknowledged her as my grandmother. I don't disrespect her. But I understand she is what she is, and she's and she uses uh her Christianity as a as a as a tool. To manipulate her kids, and I have no interest in partaking in that. The rest of the family can pretend that she's this, she's never gonna change. She's gonna be that person. So I just understand that uh with people are gonna be who they're gonna be. And she then she just ended it with uh forgiveness. Forgiveness is for you, not for them. So you can you can never acknowledge, you don't even have to tell them that you forgive them. You can just forgive them and say you are where you are.

SPEAKER_02

I've got to be thinking that. I always say, like, I'll forgive. I I even the people that for me, I'll forgive you. I just keep your witter. Yeah, I'm not gonna interact with you because what just because I forgive you doesn't mean that I'm not gonna remember what you did when I see you. So I'm not gonna keep traumatizing myself by reliving something I don't want to relive. So I'm gonna just remove you. And I'm not gonna think about you unless you're in the vicinity. So that's how I look at it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I think the vast majority of forgiveness.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Sometimes you gotta forgive niggas with a head, though.

When Silence Sets The Boundary

SPEAKER_01

Just remember. You're you. I remember I told her in their face and she looked at me like, but who am I? I said, You're you. She's waiting for me to say grandma or granny. I said, No, you're you.

SPEAKER_00

I know you are. How do you guys do you find yourself having like difficult conversations in setting boundaries often?

SPEAKER_02

Hell no.

SPEAKER_00

No, no.

SPEAKER_02

I usually the only person I have a hard time setting boundaries with is my child and my wife. So them niggas are my nose.

SPEAKER_00

So do so, okay. So are your boundaries communicated or are they just the boundary that you know that you have?

SPEAKER_02

I think our music communication. I think the closer you are to the person, the harder it is to set the boundaries. And I think that's why it's harder, it's hardest for me to set the boundary with my daughter, with my child and my wife. Everyone else, I'll be like, look here, nigga, this is what it is. I feel you.

SPEAKER_00

No, I feel you.

SPEAKER_02

Like, as close as I am to Andy, I'm like, look here, nigga, I can't do it today. Like this. Like, I'll I'll hit you tomorrow and see how I feel.

SPEAKER_00

Like, yeah. That's true. That is true.

SPEAKER_01

But my music for my family's sake, they they my music is very, very.

SPEAKER_00

But do they listen to it?

SPEAKER_01

They listen to it and they don't like it.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah. I thought Larry likes it.

SPEAKER_01

No, I'm talking about blood. I'm talking about the family, like the extended, like when they hear it and they're like, oh, you're talking about grandma like that, you damn skippy. And you can feel whatever way you want to feel about it. But that's how I feel.

SPEAKER_00

But is that setting a boundary or is that just communicating how you feel?

SPEAKER_01

No, it sets a boundary, lets them know that I don't rock with any of it. So it's like not done in a disrespectful way.

SPEAKER_02

There's just this is where I sit and don't expect me to but that goes back, that goes goes back to the top episode when we're talking about emotional intelligence and having empathy. People have to understand that your experience with that person is not gonna be the same experience everyone else. Like I like, like they always say, like you can have, like you, for instance, Sharon, you have three daughters, right? Each daughter has a different version of it.

SPEAKER_00

Very much so.

SPEAKER_02

So they're gonna they're gonna say have three different childhoods. Now, we all know the babies are spoiled.

SPEAKER_00

That's my girlfriend.

SPEAKER_02

That's every baby. The oldest kids always feel like even my David Ruffin.

SPEAKER_00

They didn't tend to.

SPEAKER_02

Right. Because even me and my even my me and my sister feeling the same way, like what my baby's was like, Nigga, like you got mom when she was in a better headspace, like you have a different mother why than we had. Like you didn't have to go through all the trouble and the addiction and my dude grew up with it. You know what I'm saying? Like, you didn't have to go through that. So, like you, we we see her completely different.

SPEAKER_00

That's so true.

SPEAKER_02

So when you talk about life was hard, nigga, we watch you get everything you wanted. Shit your ass up. You know what I mean? So, but again, but that to me that extends outside of just like parenthood, like like like you were saying, like with with grandparents. Come on, because grandparents, uh uh uncles, aunties, everybody have favorites. Yeah and we know, okay, yeah, oh yeah, you so-and-so's favorite. You because you can tell by how they how they treat how they treat each other. So I feel like that that having empathy and knowing, like, okay, yeah, I understand that we all want to treat the same. And you know, I may not agree with what he's saying about you know grand granny, but you know, that's his truth. Like, and it's there's nothing wrong with it acknowledging somebody else's truth just because it's not true.

SPEAKER_00

And it's like two things can be true at one time, and that's a thing that I feel like, especially when and I don't want to go too deep in it, but I feel like the generation before us, meaning like most of what our parents' ages probably are, it's just a right and a right. Like there's no other truth to things. It's like whatever my perspective uh, whatever their perspective was of the truth being and how they attempted to convey the truth, then that's how you were supposed to receive it, and there's nothing else to it. And that's not always true. There's two things that can be true at one time. I can feel like you're an asshole, you can feel like he's great, you know.

SPEAKER_02

Well, if you know anything about common core math, there is more than one way to solve fucking math with the way that the way they teaching these kids is ridiculous.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Well, even as simple as why am I why am I back in third grade? Have you guys seen the picture of the number nine, right? I'm standing on this side, it's a number nine. You're standing on that side, it's a number six. And we're we are both, but we have different viewpoints of what the situation is.

SPEAKER_04

So two things can definitely come, and I think I like that, but I think that's the dumbest shit I've ever seen.

SPEAKER_00

I think that's cool. Like that's dumb.

SPEAKER_04

But listen, nigga, a nine. Yeah, shut the fuck up because they you can't do that on the number line. I'm standing at six, like, no, nigga, this is nine.

SPEAKER_00

No, I can tell it's upside down. The six over there for you, it's also a six.

SPEAKER_04

I'm talking shit. I was about to say, what about an eight? Well, eight's always an eight, is an eight. No, it's two zeros.

SPEAKER_00

No, no, no. So it's infinity? It depends on how you draw the eight.

SPEAKER_02

Infinite.

SPEAKER_00

It is the infinity line.

SPEAKER_02

No, I said two zeros, and not connected.

SPEAKER_00

So then that's not an eight.

SPEAKER_02

Not an eight. It depends on who wrote it.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, yeah. If I wrote it, you can't tell what the fuck it is. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_00

So you don't lefties. You don't feel like you have to have those conversations often because you said that.

SPEAKER_04

I don't know who it is.

SPEAKER_00

Like, I really feel like Well, generally, like overall, do you find yourself having boundaries-setting conversations?

SPEAKER_04

It goes with a lot with the forgiveness things. It's like you set your boundaries. Like sometimes motherfuckers don't even like knowing. You're like, you just Is that fair to them? It's fair to me. It'll yeah, that's about self-care.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I was gonna say, like, it doesn't to me.

SPEAKER_00

But we're talking about emotional intelligence. So hear me.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but if I'm not doing anything to hurt anybody or anything of that nature, just because I'm doing this doesn't mean that's your boundary to set, I guess.

SPEAKER_02

Because here's the other thing. Sorry, you can you can set your boundaries and they not respect them.

SPEAKER_00

They can.

SPEAKER_02

Right? So when they don't when they when they're not respect them, naturally what you're gonna do is you're just gonna slowly remove yourself. More than likely. Remove yourself. So, like, so so to Kevin's degree, he he set his boundaries.

SPEAKER_00

Now, if they're not respect him, I'm just gonna But I'm not gonna keep addressing the same issue over here. No, and okay, you said addressing the same issue, my thing communicating the boundary, right? So there's self, whatever, self-whatever. Well, I forgot what you said. Um in the framework of emotional intelligence, because remember, emotional intelligence also it also includes self-awareness and self-reflection and how you are angle. So, with that being said, is it fair to the person under the framework of emotional intelligence to set a boundary without communicating?

SPEAKER_02

It is if it's self- to me personally, it is if it's self-care. If we already had a previous conversation and and you still and you still Was the previous conversation a communicating boundary?

SPEAKER_00

That's motherfucker. Yes, but yeah, it's fair. No, you don't understand. So you understand my question. I understand what you're saying, too. Because you're you like you're you're skipping past.

SPEAKER_04

But I know what he's saying too. It's like we're still adding another bear, another another balance.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_02

She shot me twice, nigga. She's bam bam.

SPEAKER_00

Answer the question. Yeah, y'all I'm hosting next week too, goddammit.

SPEAKER_01

Damn. I might hold you to it. She said that shit last time.

SPEAKER_02

That's what I said.

SPEAKER_00

Y'all made me do it.

SPEAKER_02

Um, I make you do shit.

SPEAKER_00

But anyways, but no, that's that that was what I was trying to say. Is like, I feel like, yeah, you may get yourself maybe you don't want to have a second conversation, but I think that to be in community with someone, you have to communicate those boundaries.

SPEAKER_04

Yes, I that I agree. Some of them some boundaries are just understood.

SPEAKER_01

Some yeah. All right, Rayo, right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, some are just understood.

SPEAKER_01

Some things don't have to be explained.

SPEAKER_02

Like I yeah, I know not to call Kevin.

SPEAKER_01

You think that I mean to a degree because it I sometimes your silence can be more than enough. Yeah, like because if a certain situation happens where you get disrespected, and I have this in personal, if a certain thing can happen that could be disrespected and you stop rocking with somebody and they go, We haven't had that conversation. But the understanding is when they think about why you're being silent, they know why you stopped talking. And they know why that distance is had because you never had the conversation, though they understood that the interaction that happened last probably got them there. You know what I'm saying? So it's not necessarily always a conversation that needed to be had. It was previous situations that happened that made somebody go, you know what? I fucked up and said something or did something I wasn't supposed to do in that situation.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. What if they see when they fucked up toys? No, that but that's not the point.

SPEAKER_01

You know what I'm saying? But it's still.

SPEAKER_00

Let's say with the relationship, right? We're talking about a relationship with someone that you really care about. You setting a boundary without and they said something fucked up to you, you interpreted it fucked up. How do you even if you draw back from that, they could feel like, damn, I know that that was the situation why they drew back, but what the fuck did I say?

SPEAKER_02

See, my my my uh yeah, my rule of thumb is to address it when it happens. So if it happens again, now you you don't have to question what I'm doing with you.

SPEAKER_01

Here's a perfect example of the other side.

SPEAKER_02

That boundary is already set though.

SPEAKER_01

The relationship happens and one person cheats on the other, we can never have a conversation after that. But if you realize I fucked around and cheated on them, and they I can't understand why they withdrew or distanced themselves or whatever, you never have to have a conversation. They can never think that they what they did was necessarily unforgiving, but at the same time they realize in that moment probably I shouldn't have cheated.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I just I feel like what I'm saying is your boundaries they're set. Your boundaries are set, no matter what. Some are, and like you don't have to tell somebody that if they cross a boundary, how did they cross it if it wasn't set? Like just because you didn't talk about it, you know what I mean? Like now, this is our first communication on it, so I'm gonna talk to you about it. It's like, oh, I don't like when people do this. But right? So there's your boundary. You've already had that boundary. Like you have set boundaries that you just walk out the door with. Yeah, we all do.

SPEAKER_00

Like, so it's like But people will cross that boundary.

SPEAKER_04

But I'm just saying, you ain't gotta go walking around. Like, when I meet you, I'm not gonna be like, hey, here's my boundaries.

SPEAKER_01

Because like things don't do this. So you got the situations with relationships where I'm getting there there's a guy that constantly keeps cheating.

SPEAKER_00

It's nice to meet you. So these are the things that I do not like. These are my red flags, and these are my boundaries.

SPEAKER_01

Because there's a guy that keeps cheating, and in all his past relationships, he keeps cheating, and they eventually work it out and they get to a good place to where she never tripped when I cheated. We eventually ended working out, but he meets the chick that ain't cool with you as soon as you do that, it's done. And he's like, But before we used to, what this ain't working with you? No, it's not working with you.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, and you get to choose how you're gonna send your back because somebody might be a person. Yeah, like somebody might do something to you where you're like, not letting it slide, but then it might be somebody else who does the same thing, but like, that's true.

SPEAKER_00

You know what? Well, you didn't let that slide with that's the real ass shit right there. That's actually funny.

SPEAKER_01

It just as a circumstantial, I guess, because like I said, there's people that you say, Oh, yeah, we every time I cheated on them, they were they we talked it out. We had an understanding. It's like, wait a minute. So with them, it was just one time it was done, one time it was done. Didn't even have to have the conversation.

SPEAKER_02

I got a question. I got a question. I got a question. I I do got a question. It's this question is for us. This this question is for uh the the lady who keeps going.

SPEAKER_00

That is funny. That was just funny. I was really out of question.

SPEAKER_04

Was that the whole class?

SPEAKER_00

No, I haven't too. Oh man, that was funny.

SPEAKER_02

You alright?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I didn't really have a question, I just said that.

SPEAKER_00

Oh my gosh. Well, I mean, I think in the class we we ended up talking a lot about boundaries, which I think that's why we just did that right there. But you know, oh no. I I just feel like there's she can't even get it.

SPEAKER_04

You gotta get us out of here. You gotta get us out of here.

SPEAKER_02

She can't, I mean, she can't even get emotional damage.

SPEAKER_03

She can't even stop laughing.

SPEAKER_02

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_00

No, we did good.

SPEAKER_02

We got through it. This is the first time in history woman ever won't work.

SPEAKER_00

This is the first for me. What do you say? What do you say?

SPEAKER_01

I couldn't, he was talking that way. I couldn't remember.

SPEAKER_04

I can't say it out loud. That's gonna get us inside. We can't put the yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I hope I don't pick it up. I'm not cutting out.

SPEAKER_00

Well, I'm gonna give everybody some homework. We're all gonna go home.

SPEAKER_02

I'm not doing homework. I'll tell your ass right now I ain't doing it.

SPEAKER_00

We're all gonna go home and we're going to make an advantage. We're all gonna hold you.

SPEAKER_04

I'm gonna sweater if you're sweating. I was sitting here looking at y'all like, yeah, this could be an episode.

Different Boundaries For Different Relationships

SPEAKER_00

Oh my gosh, that was so crazy.

SPEAKER_02

That's why I took the hat off. Oh, hold on. Okay, Sherrod. So do you know do you believe that do you believe that the boundaries can be different depending on the person?

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02

And and the person and type of relationship?

SPEAKER_00

Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Because obviously you have like like let me ask you this. Do you do you do you have different boundaries with each of your children?

SPEAKER_00

That's interesting.

SPEAKER_02

Because it's like do you have like one child that you know, like if I if I let her, she'll take it all the way here. Like I know she won't take it here, but this won't take it all.

SPEAKER_00

So no, that's true.

SPEAKER_02

So are those different?

unknown

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

They are.

SPEAKER_02

I know you. I know Gracie.

SPEAKER_00

Like that's funny.

SPEAKER_04

So she's gonna go all the way to it.

SPEAKER_00

I think I would compare my two older ones just because they're such in similar age or whatever, but they're drastically different. But I do have to navigate them both very differently. That is very true. So I do set boundaries that are different. I know for myself, I'm a different person.

SPEAKER_02

Now, have now my other question, my backup question that is uh my follow-up question is have you communicated that with them? The beads are sweat. God damn.

SPEAKER_03

That nigga hot. I'm over here. This nigga knows how hot I am and he just starts asking like a thousand questions. This nigga not I had I didn't have questions.

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I'm trying to I'm trying to add some depth to the conversation.

SPEAKER_03

No, you good, you good.

SPEAKER_01

God damn. You good and it doesn't help that the lights hitting it so I can see all the like that man fucking sued.

SPEAKER_04

I can't look in that direction. Let me look at it. I just keep looking up and seeing him laughing. I'm like, nigga, it ain't funny.

SPEAKER_00

This nigga's okay.

SPEAKER_02

I'll just keep doing it. Hurry up and answer Sharon for this nigga take his shirt off.

SPEAKER_00

Do I communicate those boundaries?

SPEAKER_02

Swing right here.

SPEAKER_00

I don't always communicate with okay.

SPEAKER_02

I'm just I'm just sending your questions back to you.

SPEAKER_00

Well I think I was I don't know. I think when dealing with kids is different. I think it's everybody though.

The Harm In Thoughtless Comments

SPEAKER_02

Everybody's every relationship is different. Because like like you said, like you said, with empathy, right? But having empathy. I understand that I may have the same conversation with Kevin and Andy. The conversation may start and go in two separate direct directions, but it doesn't mean that the conversation is not about the same thing. So that that's me having empathy towards how they're gonna react or respond to knowing to the subject, whatever we're talking about. That's what I'm saying. Like with the whole like the setting of boundaries and everything, it that is on a that's on a that is on a case-by-case now basis.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

In public is sometimes what you mean because some people just don't give a fuck about boundaries, and you're like, hey, you like people you don't know? Yeah. Oh yeah, strange don't give a fuck. Just like, hey, look, you guys should have more children.

SPEAKER_03

You're like, shut your ass up. Bitch, I don't I don't know you. Like you don't know anybody's situation. You know what?

SPEAKER_02

And honestly, that question, that question pisses me off.

SPEAKER_00

What?

SPEAKER_02

When they when anytime I hear someone tell a woman, because one, you don't know what she's going through. Yeah, one, you don't know if she can have another child. Really openly say that? You don't you don't know if she's had you know miscarriages in the like you don't know what the situation you you could be by saying that very fucking statement, you could be open in the wound and not even recognize it. Yeah, and a lot of times a woman's not gonna say enough. Oh she'll she'll laugh it off some shit. But I know when people say shit like that tomorrow, but man, shut your but jazz up. Like, like I don't I don't like when people say that shit. That that that low-key kind of triggers me. I'll be very public.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, people just talk about the whole time, my sister.

SPEAKER_02

People aren't fucking anything because she's still dealing with the grief. And that, bro, like could you the second you you mention a baby, she's gonna think about her babies. Yeah, you know what I'm saying? And so like now you open the fucking wounds that don't need to be talked about. Obviously, I'm obviously you're oblivious to the fact of of the history, but still, you again have it have imp have imp have some fucking things. Like, yeah, and how you interact with people, you should be more comfortable asking a woman how much she weighs in the age if she got no kid.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, unless there's a thyroid condition.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it might be a problem too.

SPEAKER_04

I've seen that before too. That's what I like. You thought somebody was pregnant, you know, it's oh yeah. Wow, my apologies.

SPEAKER_00

But those are all good points, you guys, because that all falls under emotion, like just in communication with people and just being mindful. Like, I you know one thing I used to hate, like you know, when people would like not come to work one day and then the next day, like, oh, must be nice. And it's like actually my grandma died.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, no, I wouldn't really feel like I always say it is, it's very nice.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, but shut up, or or even like, oh, I'm I won't even say I was off the like maybe I'm off tomorrow. Like, oh yeah, I won't be in tomorrow. Oh, must be nice. Like, and then it's just like I have to go to the doctor, or you know what I mean? Like that lacks emotional intelligence to a degree where it literally makes my flesh crawl. Because it's like you know, you really I yeah, I yeah, I can't say it's a bit. Because it's like, how dare you? Like, you don't know what that looks like for me. Like, and people just are so like oblivious.

SPEAKER_02

If you really if I I I think I started realizing a lot of times people are projecting without realizing they're projecting. Yeah. Because when they say a lot of times when niggas say most of my nigga, you just want to be able to do it. Yeah, and you mad that you didn't, you like, but you don't know why I'm not gonna be here to take Sharon's example. You don't know why I'm not, you just don't want to work, nigga. So just say you don't you wish you didn't have to come to work today.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, whatever. I'm like, Ambite is usually what they um, well, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

I'm like, you got the same, yeah, you got the same thing I got. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

No, you just want to be a company man.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but or I don't know if they're projecting. I just think that people are really ignorant. I think people lack, people always want to fill space. That's something you don't ever have to fill space with me. So it's like if I say I'm off tomorrow to fill the space, you can't just like like honestly, if you tell me you're off tomorrow, okay. I don't give a fuck. There's no response, right? But why would I take it? Or or but no, I'm saying, like, or good point, or maybe you're telling me because there's something that I have to do differently tomorrow because of that. So I maybe might fill the space with that, like, oh, okay, well, what do you have? Like, you know, I'm gonna get I'm gonna give you this. People lack the the like I don't know, people lack the ability to just be quiet. Like, you don't have to fill that space. So it's like now they want to come back with a ha ha must be nice. No, now you look like a fucking idiot.

SPEAKER_02

I'm gonna give you this. The people say that would say that to me and all the time, like, oh no, it's tomorrow Friday. You want to say, yeah. If you know, you know. Like, I don't have to, I don't have to. You don't have to what what's understood, it gotta be said, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but you just don't know as to be emotionally emotionally intelligent means just shut the fuck up.

Respect Language And Public Lines

SPEAKER_01

Kevin, um this is a full circle. The beads of sweat make me think about when we were at uh Buffalo Wild Wings.

SPEAKER_04

Wild Wings, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And the sweat that beads are very similar. And then it made me think about in this point, is bringing it full circle this moment. Is when the fucking waitress said Don't be a bitch.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, she likes empathy then. And you were like, bitch, who asked you? She liked a lot of empathy. My mouth was on fire.

SPEAKER_01

He tried the hottest wing at uh both.

SPEAKER_04

That shit must have been because he still remember that shit. They didn't have wings then. Remember that?

SPEAKER_01

He tried the hottest flavor on the drumstick. That was just dumb. And he did it the ice cream though. And then she was like, stop being a bitch.

SPEAKER_00

And he was like, bitch, who I mean that was a fair response. Because why would she say that? Not stop being a bitch. That's kind of crazy.

SPEAKER_02

If I call a woman a bitch in public, nigga, she really pissed. I think that's probably about the only time I've done that. Because I'll say, I'll say, I'll say bitch, like jokingly, talk about like just like random, not us a person in particular. But I'll never actually call like a woman a bitch.

SPEAKER_00

But that's like in reverse. I don't, I don't play, I've only called one man a bitch. He's a bitch.

SPEAKER_02

I've called a lot of new bitches a minute every time.

SPEAKER_00

No, but but I mean I'm saying like from the flip side perspective, like when you mean like calling that person a like a male, like I really think that like that's a no-go. Like you don't call no man a bitch. Like you do not one man. But that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01

No, no, I gotta lift. No.

SPEAKER_00

So that yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Especially in our culture.

SPEAKER_00

So it's like bitch and then there's bitch ass nigga. I do be throwing bitch ass nigga out there a lot.

SPEAKER_01

And our culture is a good thing.

SPEAKER_00

But that's when you do some bitch ass shit. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

That's a whole episode of that right now. What's bitch ass shit?

SPEAKER_01

Um but it in our culture it's understood that certain things Oh, yeah. You're you're meant to, you're you're meaningly trying to be disrespectful. So and you know it, and once you cross it, you know that you're trying to be disrespectful.

SPEAKER_02

How the fuck are you gonna tell me what I've been going through, bitch ass nigga?

SPEAKER_03

I love that fucking video.

Homework Laughs And Closing

SPEAKER_02

How you gonna explain some shit that you don't understand to me? So with that being said, Sharon, you got your words in it?

SPEAKER_04

You hosting. You forgot? She forgot.

SPEAKER_02

She forgot.

SPEAKER_00

No, I did, I did, I did. Um, yeah. Well, remember I was saying I was gonna tell you guys. He fucked up. I was before you guys abruptly. No, nothing was abrupt. It was before you guys abruptly um um not ignored, but like we've been abrupt for the past 20 minutes. You guys don't want to do my homework and my homework. No, no, you're goddamn right to go home and make the conscious effort to be emotionally intelligent in a situation.

SPEAKER_01

All right, well, I'm gonna fire up the BS five. It's it's very uh challenging, but it's worth it.

SPEAKER_00

It's clap. Fucking clap. I'll take the gunshot.

SPEAKER_01

I respect the gunshots.

SPEAKER_00

Practicing emotional intelligence is worth it for yourself.

SPEAKER_03

Hell no. Ignorance is bliss. Bang on them, cuz bang on him.

SPEAKER_01

So is laughter.

SPEAKER_00

No, I love laughter, but emotional.

SPEAKER_01

I feel like a million bucks after laughing at this shit.

SPEAKER_04

That nigga still sweating, dude. Yeah, it's it went away. When I sent still, it went away. He was like, it's right.

SPEAKER_02

I said, I think I think y'all not heck? I think he took it. I think he took his head off and it got worse because I think the head was catching it. But then the head was out of the head. Poor guy. He's still drinking his head. Let's get this nigga a fan.

SPEAKER_01

I got it.

SPEAKER_00

All right, y'all.

SPEAKER_01

Like, subscribe, share, and comment.

SPEAKER_00

All that shit.

SPEAKER_01

Till next time. We love you.

SPEAKER_02

Peace.

SPEAKER_01

It's only 75 degrees, too.

SPEAKER_03

Sweaty. That's a rap, y'all. That's that's how she wrote. So make sure you click like, subscribe. Tune in. We're on our screen platform. So until next time. Well hi at you.