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Actor Lombardo Boyar joins the show to talk about the real life of a working actor in Hollywood.

From serving in the Army’s 82nd Airborne to appearing in major films and voicing characters in Coco and Happy Feet, Lombardo shares stories about typecasting, voice acting, comedy versus drama, and what it takes to stay grounded while building a long career in entertainment.

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Intro, Banter & Acting Journey Begins

SPEAKER_04

Let's go before I get drunk.

SPEAKER_01

Phillip. You are halfway there. No, I'm not. I just had a really good readiness score. That's what you're seeing right now.

SPEAKER_00

I don't know what a readiness is.

SPEAKER_02

Ready for what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_00

So as the Here we go. As the drinks fly and the French toast hits.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Sorry. Sorry, Kevin, you missed out on that. This is a I always say this, but I really mean it every time I say it. This is a gonna be a dope episode of Tokyo Shit. That's right. Um I'll I'll say this. I see this man frequently on Fridays. And one day I saw him meditating, and I was like, I'm pretty sure I just saw this guy in the accountant too. But I I don't know how to present this. And Zooy asked him and he confirmed, and I said, I knew it. I knew it. I'm not crazy. I thought I was crazy. No, I mean I had a lot of fake tattoos. So I saw him, and every time I've seen him on Fridays, he's always talking to everyone. Everyone's face lights up when they talk to him because he's he's very, very chill, easygoing guy. Uh he'll make you laugh, he'll he'll make you feel comfortable in a setting where it's very high stress because these parents don't give a shit.

SPEAKER_03

We're talking about an elementary school too, but they'll cut you off.

SPEAKER_00

They'll do that. So in that in that setting, it's very nice to have somebody that's very chill and easygoing. Uh that that makes each time that I've ever interacted with him very chill. Um, and to know that he was willing to do this and to know that he's a uh the things that I've seen him in, he's a dope actor, and uh I got to pick his brain a little bit on the way here. Um, so ladies and gentlemen, without further ado, we give you Lombardo, Boyar.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

How are you doing this morning? Welcome. I'm really good. I'm so laughing at the fact that you sent you sent your wife to do recon.

SPEAKER_06

Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I just I couldn't you know he's not gonna cuss you out when you go for it.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

So yeah, she came up. We were walking towards the school, and she came up, she goes, Hey, this is kind of a random question.

SPEAKER_00

And I said I wasn't sure. And she, yeah.

From Military Life to Acting

SPEAKER_04

I was like, Yeah, that was me. She was cool.

SPEAKER_00

So, um what originally made you want to pursue acting? And what moment did you realize that you could actually become have this as a career right now? Yeah, he's not reading at all.

SPEAKER_03

At all.

SPEAKER_00

That was uh all off memory. I was just looking down at uh my thoughts.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, uh growing up, honestly, I think what uh uh in Al Pasville, Texas, that's where from I I read I went to go see Platoon uh with my best friend at the time, and uh we're gonna have best friends. Anyway, so we went to go see Platoon, and I remember that movie just blowing me away. You know, it really affected me. I think I was like 12. And um after that, I just always fell in love with the love movies and then Saturday Night Live, always wanted to be on Saturday Night Live, like that that was the comedy thing. But yeah, but honestly, being in the army is what did it. Like, you know, because I it was a great, that was my college, you know. I I was uh in the army, I was 82nd airborne, jumped out of planes like an idiot. But I only went in for two and a half years. But that's where I grew up, that's where I became a man. But I didn't like it, you know. It wasn't me. Yeah, I was artistic, I like cracking jokes, I like you know, doing things the right way.

SPEAKER_06

You know, I get that.

SPEAKER_04

That's why Forrest Gubb is my favorite, one of my favorite depictions. Like they just want you to be like him because you told me to, Joe Sargon. That's all they want to hear. Yes, I'll fucking do it. Yes, yes, yes, don't. Hey, how about if we did this? Somebody's like, shut the fuck up. You know, just do your job. Um, so once I got out of that, since I've always wanted to do it, I said I'm gonna go for it. Because, you know, I because I saw a lot of miserable people in the military. You know, the the ones that stood out were the ones that actually really loved it as opposed to the ones that were in there just stuck. You know, they wanted to do something else, but they didn't have the balls to do it.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

You know, they just said no, which made them miserable and it trickles down and everybody's in a bad mood. Right. You know, but there was a rare cases where uh you would meet some people that really truly loved it, and they were my favorite. They were they were the but so that's what made me want to do it. Just wanted to be happy, and if I don't try it, I'm not gonna be happy.

SPEAKER_00

So I respect that. I respect that for sure. Yeah, I get that with music. I get the songs. Yeah, you gotta go for it, man.

SPEAKER_02

Would that work? Tell your wife.

SPEAKER_00

If I don't try it, I'm not gonna I don't think it works to that degree, though.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, when you have kids and shit, they don't buy that anyway.

SPEAKER_07

I have to try a fucking stripping, babe.

SPEAKER_04

I guess you just think trying that shit. I'm gonna work out for six months, I'm gonna pay the membership. Okay. I didn't know you were quiet drunk.

SPEAKER_03

When you look back, no, give her time. Give her time, she's gonna turn up.

SPEAKER_02

She's gonna turn up, yeah. You don't think she'd kickboxing? Cheers.

SPEAKER_04

When they told me this show was early, I was like, you better have a bloody Mary. Cheers. This is coffee.

SPEAKER_01

I was gonna say, what are you talking about? You have bloody Mary, I got coffee.

SPEAKER_04

This coffee is cold and spicy and tastes like vodka.

SPEAKER_00

When you look back at your early roles, what do you remember being the biggest challenge starting out in Hollywood?

SPEAKER_04

Oh, of course, you know, and every ethnic person has this thing, you know, the stereotypes.

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Um you know, are you gonna play? You know, I played like one of my first guest spots was on Dangerous Minds, the series. And, you know, I was all happy they shaved my head to play a gang better. Yay! Finally got my head shaved. Um and even on Baywatch, I did the big when they had the uh Latino lifeguard, I was his friend from the hood that came to visit. So it was always, you know, that's you know, and it's been going on forever, you know what I mean? Like, yeah, and the thing with me, I was a skateboarder and stuff. So when I always played these gangbangers, even in the accountant, too, right? Like, that's not me. Like, you're listening to me speak now. I've never been a gangbanger, never done any of that stuff. My older brother was in it, so I could relate to it. I've seen it growing up, but skateboarding saved my life. Like, you know, the word the most I got was hey skater, die, fool!

SPEAKER_01

But they didn't kick my ass. You know what I mean? So, how did you did you tap into that like from your brother? Like, some of those roles. That's how you're gonna be. Definitely, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

So I saw it my whole life, but I just never was that. I I didn't get it. You know, and it's gonna be a lifestyle that lives forever. We all know that. You're never gonna stop it, right?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Never gonna stop gangs, you know. It's it's but I always, you know, people say, Why you always play bad guys? Like, well, first of all, I beat out a lot of motherfuckers to get the role. So congratulations, first of all. Yeah, you know, but people don't see that. You know, I mean, uh, when my book, like giving the account too, I was surprised and I booked it. Because there's so many real gangsters acting now. You know what I mean? There really is. Like Danny Trejo started it way back. You know, he's one of the OGs and my friend Emilio Rivera, who's in everything. You know him, if you saw him, Noelle G works a lot. Uh Richard, uh, goddamn, I can't think of his last family. He's a great actor too. But he's the real, these guys are all, they were the real deal. You know what I mean? And then they became actors. So it's hard to like, it's like playing a prison guy, right? But you're really from prison. I mean, like, you put a guy on, like, that's why even Post Malone gets bad guy roles, just because all the tats, right? You put that on screen, it's shocking, right? Yeah, and it's hard, you can't compete with that. I kind of laugh at Post Malone, though. Yeah. I know he's that tough. Yeah, uh, but that's like, oh, but for Hollywood, like who's got tattoos on his face? Yeah, he's a bad guy.

SPEAKER_01

Did you ever want to like or have you ever gone for roles that were completely outside of that avenue to try to break from that?

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah. I mean, that's the thing. I I've gotten serious regular roles. I played detectives.

SPEAKER_01

Oh.

SPEAKER_04

Uh, I did I played detective and murder in the first. Uh, and then comedies, of course. I did the Bernie Max show, you know, for four years playing Chewy. That's cool. I replaced uh, what's his face? I of course I can't think of his name, but the guy that got uh he got in trouble for stealing everybody's jokes, the Latino guy. Oh, uh Carlos Carlos Messiah.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, everybody knows, man. Carlos Messiah.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, sad. But anyway, so he That broke my heart. Yeah. Oh, this motherfucker's funny.

SPEAKER_02

Wait, those are his jokes?

unknown

What's the fuck?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah. I mean, of course, uh hey, I I met him, he's a cool guy. I don't know what's true or what's not, but that's the ruler. So, but he did the first two episodes of the Bernie Mac show. And then uh apparently the rumor is that, you know, because he was already kind of a bigger name.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah.

Comedy vs Drama, Voice Acting & Robin Williams

SPEAKER_04

And it was a better move for him because the next year he got uh Mind of Mencia, which was his own damn show. So he asked for a little bit more money and they said no. And then they brought me in. Thank you. So that was uh that was fun. So yeah, you know, I and then I'm gonna go ahead and jump into one of the questions you're gonna ask me. So yeah, comedy, uh, comedy or drama, right? Like what's better? Uh I love both of them. I mean, both are just as hard. Yeah, see, I remember guys like the cheekbook over there, like the clip notes.

SPEAKER_06

Not gonna get me.

SPEAKER_04

Yes. So um I believe it or not, uh drama comes easier. Um, because I'm a funny person in real life. Like people, you know, as you see me at school, I love having fun. I mean, I'm real life. I I'm a nice guy. I love people, I love cracking jokes. I'm a I'm a morning person, which pisses my family off.

SPEAKER_03

I can I can attest to that. Yeah. Why are you up so early?

SPEAKER_04

I mean, I just I just met him through the end and all that.

SPEAKER_02

No, I said no, I mean I'm a born of person. My family is not. My family will sleep till one o'clock if I let them.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Like, no, we gotta get shit done. And then you have to be quiet. I'm not gonna be quiet.

SPEAKER_01

Not in my house.

SPEAKER_05

Panda Morgan's, I'm not gonna be quiet. Do what I want.

SPEAKER_07

Do what I want.

SPEAKER_02

Um I gotta try at least once to be happy.

SPEAKER_04

So, comedy, people think it's easy, right? To do it when you're fun. Like, if you're a funny person, as you know, not everybody can, you know, transfer that to on screen. Oh, yeah, I mean, it's it's tougher, believe it or not, you know? You've seen some, like not every time a comedian can act. We know that. You know what I mean? You'll see some, and like, yeah, and there's some are just naturally great at it. And some, the ones that are I find most comedians are better at drama for some because usually it's a mask, right? That's when you're actually acting. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Because you're just comedy masses, you're gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_04

You're covering all the drama, right? It's a mask, it's a layer on top of it. Very cool. And then you peel it back. So that's why a lot of, you know. I would say comedians that have been through a lot of shit, which probably all of them, they're gonna say duh. Yeah. But the ones that have really been through stuff, they can tap into the drama because that's where the comedy comes from. The pain. I like that. You're covering it.

SPEAKER_02

How hard is it? Or what's the like what's the difference between being like on screen and then like the voiceover? Voiceover you could do like this, you just however the fuck you want.

SPEAKER_04

And you can treat it, you can look at your lines. I mean, literally, I don't have to memorize it, right? It's in front of me. It's a mic, and then because it's just tape, you do as many takes as you want. Yeah, yeah. You know, they don't sweat it as much, you know. But now, too, even uh even everything's video now, right? They transform. But before when it was filmed, like on sets, TV, or movies, you know, every take is that's that's some money. Yeah. You know, we so you gotta be more on it. And with yeah, voiceover, you could you could riff, improvise. Like one of my favorite roles is another question coming up. Uh scratching a machine.

SPEAKER_03

You might have thought about your working working with Robert Williams.

SPEAKER_04

Like I did both Happy Feet movies, right? And George Miller, the director who directed them all the Mad Max movies, right? Mad Max. And then he does Happy Feet.

SPEAKER_03

Like kind of explaining. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Also, and he also directed Babe. Really? Yeah, yeah, the guy that did Mad Max. But he was a great director, but when we did the Happy Feet movies, he actually had us in booths together like this. So we could rip out so literally Robin Williams was right next to him, you know, lives we went over here. So working with Robin Williams, you know, for those two movies, such a life amazing. So that was I was just such a guitarist part two. We went to Australia, you know, for 17 days for my voice. It's like what?

Working on Coco and Cultural Impact

SPEAKER_01

That's crazy. That's crazy. Uh since we tapped into animation, I was gonna wait, but I have to ask, well, who were you on Coco?

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah, I was the Plaza Warachi in the beginning. Uh-huh. Uh with the guitar. You are a musician, no?

unknown

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I just want to shine.

unknown

Boop!

SPEAKER_04

Grandma hits me with a chunk line.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, two of the things.

SPEAKER_04

And also, I was the one that the one the role that I fight, I'm actually a very trivia question because I did two voices in Coco. Oh. I was the only one that did two voices. And the afterlife, I play Gustavo too, where they're trying to go to Ernesto's party.

SPEAKER_07

And he has a guy, hey Gustavo, is the person. Yeah, it's the hot ticket, but you gotta be on the list so you can't get in. And then he's like, he died.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, I love that.

SPEAKER_04

So that role, because I'm such a smart ass in real life, and I was like, okay, if I don't get that, I'm I'm quitting. I can actually so later on the director told me that he kind of connected the mariachi to Gustavo being one of his ancestors in the afterlife. So that's why he gave me two. It's like, oh, that's deep, man.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, Coco is definitely a top five in my house. I love Coco. Yeah, we love Coco.

SPEAKER_04

Again, one of the questions, one of the biggest Caselatino, one of the biggest movies. You know what I would proud to be a part of.

SPEAKER_01

I was gonna say what I loved, and and I'm gonna just say, like, when I first watched Coco, because it would always be playing in the background of my house. My kids were watching, I wouldn't pay attention. The first time I sat down and watched it, I cried. I'm gonna say that.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And I like it. I read the script and I cried.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I was literally balling.

SPEAKER_01

But overall, what I gathered from Coco, what I really appreciated was like, fuck, Disney got it right. Like, you know what I mean? Like, culturally, they finally got something right. And that's what was so dope to me.

Casting, Memorization & How the Industry Works

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, even uh, even in the casting, they were everybody had to be Mexican, like, which was rare, you know what I mean? Like, there's so many Puerto Ricans that play Mexicans.

SPEAKER_01

And they did in real life, too. Very exactly, exactly. Yeah, they did very good of the depiction of the culture. Oh, yeah. No, they that was really good.

SPEAKER_04

They're very, very, very specific. And of course, to keep saying, I don't think they'll ever do a part two. I mean, you can't.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, God, I'll yeah, I guess it's one of those things. Maybe in 20 years they'll bring it alive like they did all these other movies. Yeah, yeah, they'll make it live action. Yeah. Exactly. Because all of them are live now.

SPEAKER_04

Damn, I'm too old to play Miguel.

SPEAKER_01

CGI.

SPEAKER_04

No, I'll be playing the fucking grandpa. I mean the grandpa that died.

SPEAKER_00

How long will you say it takes you to memorize lines?

SPEAKER_04

Oh, that's a good question. Uh, and it pisses everybody off, too. I'm pretty good um at memorizing my lines. Uh, I mean, for an audition, like when I actually, the good thing is now I I send my auditions from home. Right? We self-tape at home. But before going to an actual casting office, you it's usually the day before. You would lucky if you got two days to prepare. Um, but sometimes you get like a call, a call at 4 p.m. saying, hey, you gotta be, you know, uh universal uh by 11 a.m. tomorrow, five pages. You know? Um but yeah, you stay up. Um I used to write them all out first. That would help me memorize stuff. I don't even just because I've been doing it so long, I try to get the situation first. If if you figure out what's going on in the scene, uh the writing makes sense. You know what I mean? And then it's just running it with somebody. So my wife now helps me run the line. And then after I'm pretty quick, so I can have it overnight, you know? Five pages. I could just I could play with it more when I have the material. And some actors are good at looking down and you know, picking up their line and delivering it, stuff like that, but it's just it's a it's a distraction. It takes you out when you're watching it, right? Like Cam right now reading, see, like they're distracted because like what's he looking at? No. So even at that point, they are someone's going, what is he looking at? So it's the same thing, right? When you're reading an actor and he keeps going, hey, you know what?

SPEAKER_07

But yeah.

SPEAKER_04

So it takes you out of the scene. So I like to be memorized. And the funny thing is now casting directors have to they have to put on their um breakdown, which is what agents get every morning, breakdown services, which tells you what all the casting directors are looking for. A little little info there. So um it'll say like uh can play Mexican, like they have to be so you can't really discriminate anything anymore. You know what I mean? So very specific. So it'll say the age, it said it'll say can play Mexican, can play African American, you know what I mean? All ethnicities, which is great, but then my pool has gotten way bigger now, right? Before I used to just compete against the Latino actors. Now I'm going up against everybody.

SPEAKER_01

Because they can play Mexican.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, they can't say we want this. I mean, I'm I think I'm in the majority there. I feel like Robert Down Jr. should be able to be black.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, I know, right? Uh Tropic Thunder, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Only because of uh what Tropic Thunder. I was not offended at all. Oh, it was hilarious. He's a great job.

SPEAKER_04

He's one of my favorite actors. I mean, he's he's amazing.

SPEAKER_02

He it was hilarious. Yeah. I I am a lifetime Robert fan for this. That is hilarious. He killed it. He killed that.

SPEAKER_04

That's one of my go-to movies that makes me happy, right?

SPEAKER_02

That's the only Tom Cruise movie I like. Oh yeah, that's true.

SPEAKER_00

That's facts. That's facts. I'm not a Tom Cruise fan. That's that's facts.

SPEAKER_07

Oh god, I'm fine.

SPEAKER_00

Find out who that was.

SPEAKER_05

Find out who that was.

SPEAKER_02

And then the the the scene in the end where your dance is just hilarious. I cry laughing every time I watch it. No matter how much I see it. Yeah. Woo! No matter how many times I see it, I laugh.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, he destroys it.

SPEAKER_00

Uh, what would you say in your career is your breakthrough role that you had?

SPEAKER_04

Oh. Interesting. Yeah. I don't know if I've ever had a breakthrough role. I live in Winchester.

SPEAKER_03

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Are you okay? Are you okay? Stop spider.

SPEAKER_04

We're neighbors. Like you're done. And if you're your neighbors, we hang out at the same school, right? No, no. Three kids and a wife in California, baby. No joke. Expensive. No, no. Yeah, seriously. I love it. But no, uh, I did a movie called Big Ass Spider, which I really liked. Um it's a horror comedy. You can check it out. Big Ass Spider. And it's no, it's it's better than Sharknado. So like that. But because of that movie, I got some other roles. Like Coco, believe it or not. The the director of Coco saw the trailer for that and loved my voice. Okay. And brought me in. And that's how I got Coco. Um, a couple other jobs I've gotten because of it. Um, but yeah, that was a real, real fun experience. And then your next question, what do I get most recognized for? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, no.

SPEAKER_04

He remembered. Everyone's good. My memory's all right. I'm bad for a stoner. Here we go. So um was that time? Oh, uh Jesse. I did this Disney show called Jesse. Yeah, I did three episodes of that.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah, I remember that.

SPEAKER_04

And because Disney just, I mean, I love e Disney, but because they just rerun stuff so much, stuff like that, yeah. Like, yeah, I got I get recognized. I'm I just cut off the goatee if I have, especially I have the the goatee. Yeah, and the the weird thing is it's used it's used teenage girls. You know, just stare at me somewhere. And I'm like, why are they looking at me? And they start giggling. My wife's like, those girls are looking at you, giggling. Oh man, Jesse.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Where were you and Jesse? I I haven't seen that. I I think my kid, my older kids used to watch it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I played Creepy Connie's uncle, Uncle Boomer.

SPEAKER_01

Uncle Boomer?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, and I worked at the I owned a skate shop, coffee shop, uh, at the park.

SPEAKER_01

Okay.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. But yeah, the uh that uh what else I could recognize? Oh, the Lincoln Lawyer. The Lincoln Lawyer, people recognize you from that. The movie or the show? The show. The show, okay. The show's good. I did one episode this season, and I think two or three last season, and hopefully they They bring me back. And that's it. Yeah.

How Actors Really Make Money

SPEAKER_00

They should. Yeah. I I thought when I saw the scene, I was like, oh, so this is we're gonna see him again. And then they just yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But I thought for sure the way it was the scene was set up for sure.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, which is another lesson, you know, that's the thing that you learn. You know, I've been doing it 30 years now. It's crazy to say that. And then I always ask this uh to anyone who's interested in acting or every what percent like every actor out there on TV, movies, right? Uh throwing voice over everything like that. All the actors, you know, around what percentage of actors would you think make a living at it? Like that's all they do.

SPEAKER_01

Probably in the grand final.

SPEAKER_02

I'd probably say less than 10%.

SPEAKER_01

I'd say about maybe 20.

SPEAKER_05

Are we talking like all the extras and all that kind of stuff, too? Yeah, I mean that that's all they do for a living. No, no, no, no other job.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, just a fact. I say like yeah, maybe.

SPEAKER_01

Three or three percent?

SPEAKER_00

I'd say I'd say lower, like because you gotta think about the percent of what you regularly see.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, ten and under. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

When you think about everybody, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

One percent.

SPEAKER_04

It has to be well because one percent. So I'm a one percenter.

SPEAKER_03

I'm at the top, baby.

SPEAKER_04

Oh yeah, and yeah, uh and I'm not big balling or nothing like that, you know. But again, we were talking other way here. Uh, you have to live within your means. Yeah. And a lot of people don't a lot of people don't know how to do that. This is fake Louis Vuitton, okay? We're doing it. No, it's fake. And it was given to me. But yeah, a lot of people just spend too much, you know. Like, of course, I'm joking about Winchester. My in-laws are from here, and my wife, I love it. But, you know, for an actor, it's an inconvenience. I don't work here. You know, I have to drive all the way in every time I get a job, yeah, get a hotel, stay with friends. You know, I wish I could afford to live over there.

SPEAKER_03

Right?

SPEAKER_04

But I can't. Everything's expensive.

SPEAKER_05

Everything. Everything.

SPEAKER_02

The technique pass fixed so far.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, yeah. And yeah, small ass house, 1,200 square feet. Yeah, 5,000 a month. One battle. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

So, what role have you taken on that's completely different from you as a person? And what was the challenge in that?

SPEAKER_04

Oh, that's interesting. I again, and yeah, I'll say this again, like even Tomas in the account, too, because it's so not me. You know, I'm not a bad dude, which leads me to, since I've already kind of answered, I hate. Here's the thing when you play a bad guy and you're ethnic, uh Mexican, Puerto Rican, whatever, unfortunately, they assume that's how you are.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

You know what I mean? It's not, yeah. You don't get as much credit for it. You know, unless you're already an established actor like Denzel or somebody like that that then plays the bad guy home.

SPEAKER_02

Unfortunately, that's all he's been nominated for was bad guys. I think Denzel says all the shit at home. He said all that shit to his kids at least once.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh yeah, I hear you. No, he's not. I don't, but he came up as a desk man, you know, he's an actor's actor, you know.

SPEAKER_05

I'm not saying he's not a good guy. I'm just saying he said that shit.

SPEAKER_01

Oh yeah. Oh yeah. I just think that's a good point because I think um that is like the trend, even though you don't think about it. Like all of the actors that we there's so many actors that we know who they are, but we may not know their name right away or whatever. But they have roles where we're like, oh that guy, he's an asshole. Why do you think that? Because of his roles, like you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02

So that that's that's like that's like they said Tiny was the nicest guy you ever meet, but he's only he played the the asshole character really well. Nobody wanted to mess with Debo.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, but that makes you like But he was apparently he was the sweetest guy and it puts you people in a box, but I do think it's true about the ethnic actors that that's where it's like Tupac and Juice.

SPEAKER_00

Like he played Bishop so well in Juice that people believe that that was Tupac's persona, no.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, well, I mean that paired with you figure out he went to a performance art school.

SPEAKER_02

He knew he was a nice guy.

SPEAKER_01

I think if Tupac, I think if Tupac was still alive, he'd be a really good actor.

SPEAKER_05

Oh no, he was good.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, he was.

SPEAKER_05

Excuse me, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I do too. I agree.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, we know you do. I ain't talking about, I'm I'm not talking smack about.

SPEAKER_01

I love Smackab.

SPEAKER_03

We're not talking about it.

SPEAKER_04

I love Tupac. I love Tupac. It was them. They're talking smackabus. Especially more east from here.

SPEAKER_03

Yes.

SPEAKER_00

So, um, what behind the scenes story do you have that happened on set that most fans might not believe?

SPEAKER_04

Oh, I didn't remember that one. Don't give me that look.

SPEAKER_05

You didn't have that one memorized.

SPEAKER_04

This is funny, and it goes back. So, a few times in my career, I've gotten jobs offered, right? And you think, oh man, I don't have to audition sway. You know, you think it's a good thing. For me, it hasn't been. So I did this one show where they offered me, you know, a few episodes, and and I was like, cool, yeah, I'll take it. And then my agent called back the next day. He says, Oh, actually, there's one producer that wants you to come in and read. And my agents were like, but we don't think you should do it. You know, they offered it already. So then they're taking it back for one guy. So we think you should pass on it. I was like, okay, I agree with you guys, pass on it. So they come back and they say, no, never mind. He got, you know, they overwrote him. You got the part, you know. It's I'm like, cool, damn, steady work, you know, for a little bit. I'm pumped. Well, guess who fucked with me every fucking day. That producer made my fucking life miserable, man. Every day. Like after every take, he had he had a note for everything, right? Like everything, damn. So finally, when I get to my last episode, right? That's it. It's in the can. They're not gonna fire me anymore. We did this one take, he goes, boom, and he goes, slombard over. I go, God damn it, what? Because he was a really tall guy going, my neck is fucking killing me. So I'm looking up after every fucking take.

SPEAKER_07

What now?

SPEAKER_04

Like, yeah, so he just rode me the whole time, uh, which is something, you know, you people don't realize. You know, they think it's all glamorous stuff, but oh, there's the shit that goes behind the scenes is real. You know, you're not always gonna like who you're working with. And I have to take every note he gives me, you know, and try to deliver to the best what he wants. And then and it's funny because after that, I worked with some other actors who were older who taught me that fuck of like they were if the director kept asking, they kept doing it the way they wanted to. Like, fuck you. And I just, you know, I was too naive at the time to know that I could do that. Like, fuck you, it's my performance. Thanks for the note, but I know you're gonna have to move on eventually, so I'm gonna keep doing it that way. Because that's what I want in this performance.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, because it would take us money. Yeah, exactly.

SPEAKER_07

We got it, yeah. All right, let's move on.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, and I learned that after a while. Because I I try to please them so much that I forget that the fuck you.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, you know, uh, that's all right to do that. I love it. I couldn't, I couldn't be nervous. I'm like, motherfucker, y'all want it me. You're gonna get how I do it. Oh no, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

And then no, but that's also the case too, like in the account too, like in the bigger movies, you're you're they're not gonna direct as much. You're expected to have that character and you know, have it down. You know what I mean? In other words, at that level, if you're getting direction, yeah, it's not good. I mean, you should have your shit down, you know, what you want to. But that's the difference you could tell in the production, right? In the quality of sound, it does show.

SPEAKER_00

So would you say in that sense, would that be been one of the like crazier times where it was hectic and it worked? Like when when the final product was done, it was it worked.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. It I mean, all I can control is my performance. That's the thing, because once I once once we rap, it's in the director's hands, in the editor's hands, producer. Like I'll I've done, I know I've done way better takes in some some stuff that I've done. You know, because you remember crushing it, right? You remember where you were in the moment.

SPEAKER_01

And you see a movie, like, that ain't though. That ain't it. Yeah, that's the way it's like. Like, why did why did they use that take? Yeah. That's how I feel when we take pictures on Saturdays and then I see which one he posts.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Yeah. Like, why'd you pick that one? He probably picked it to piss you off.

SPEAKER_05

But that's the You should have known that was coming. You should have known that was coming. She got something to say about every picture. That's funny, is all she's been doing is how it too.

SPEAKER_04

All she's been doing is looking at herself over here. Yeah. She never saw a mirror she didn't like. But she seen a bunch of pictures she didn't like.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Foly pictures were like a mirror.

SPEAKER_01

I know, right? Seriously. He just turned out his mouth. I gotta add some move on.

SPEAKER_00

Is it is it Candy Kane Lane?

Eddie Murphy, Bernie Mac & Hollywood Stories

SPEAKER_04

Candy Kane Lane, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

When you did that that movie, um, I know you told Zooie that there was a scene that you had that they cut out from it.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, yeah. No, that's perfectly. Yeah, that was a great experience for me working with Eddie Murphy, and I made the motherfucker laugh. Oh. I was so proud. Oh, I made him laugh hard, but but it didn't make it to the movie. Oh, yeah. I want to hear about that. Well, they could yeah, yeah, you will because it's not in the movie. So only what you gonna know if we tell you.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, everybody. I have this happened in the movie. In the motherfucking cutting room floor, but it happened. Alright, so scene three. I walk in.

SPEAKER_04

So they cut out this whole storyline, and it's in the movie where he goes in the backyard and you see it's all trashed and the ducks are around and shit like that. Well, there was like an extra 15 minutes in there where all that happens. Like the fairing destroys the whole neighborhood, and all those neighbors think that it was Eddie Murphy's character, right? That he did it. And he comes out and we're all bitching at him. He's like, Yeah, he goes, Here and he's holding, like, oh no, the neighbor comes out with a Santa thing. He goes, Yeah, I found this Santa with a broom up his butt. He goes, Well, how do you know it was me? And it says his initials on it. He goes, Well, he's like, keep that thing. Gets it up, he goes, It wasn't me, whatever. He goes, I'm gonna get to the bottom of this. And I go, Yeah, Santa's bottom.

SPEAKER_07

And he and he fucking, I made him do the Eddie Murphy now. I'm like, I can't do it. But yeah, he died. And everybody looked at me. You made Eddie Murphy.

SPEAKER_04

That's what's up. That's what's up.

SPEAKER_03

I love that.

SPEAKER_04

He didn't make it in the movie, but yeah, I I killed him. He buzzed, that's funny.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's dope.

SPEAKER_04

That's so, yeah, that happened. That's what's up.

SPEAKER_00

That's not subtle to me. Eddie Murphy's uh big stable. Yeah, it happened.

SPEAKER_04

It was cool too. Uh again, it's a big set, and people always ask, how are they, right? Yeah. Actors, that's the other thing. How are they? Everybody always wants a scoop. And the thing is, like, a lot of these big actors, especially it's a set where there's a lot of extras in that Christmas movie, right? So there was always a bunch of people, ex first crew, everything, and it's Eddie Murphy, right? So everybody's stoked to see Eddie Murphy. So he was cool, took him a while, and like, yeah, we talked boxing, he likes boxing. One of his nephews boxes. So, and I love boxing, so we talked about that. That's what kind of bonded us, you know? So it was cool. But uh, if he's nice to everybody, it's never gonna end, right? We'll never get anything done.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

And a lot of them, they act that way. You know what I mean? If they start, they start talking one extra, hey, it comes another one, and then everybody, boom, boom. And then and again, time is money. So a lot of them are not necessarily mean and stuff, but that's it took me a while to again realize that as well. If they're nice to everybody, talk to everybody, we're not gonna get shit done. Like, we gotta work, we just gotta work. Yeah, you know, still work to work. So a lot of them sometimes come off mean, rude, whatever. I gotta go and stuff like that. But yeah, people forget. They're working. Yeah. You know, they're there to make money.

SPEAKER_01

How was Bernie Mack?

SPEAKER_04

Bernie Mack was one of my favorites. That's why. Oh, Bernie was, yeah, I know it's fucking funny. I got a funny story about that, I'll tell real quick. Uh yeah, Flavor Flav was on guest starring the time, and he was doing that great at the at that time. He's back now. Flav's doing great. But that point, and it was back when for continuity, we took Polaroids, right? Yeah, so yeah, keep him. Uh so they took and flavor flavor didn't understand that. He wanted his Polaroid pictures back because he thought he didn't know what they were gonna do with them.

SPEAKER_07

So he's all worried, no, I need those pictures back.

SPEAKER_04

What? And then we're doing the poker table, we're all sitting around, and we think flavor flav took off already, right? Because as you know, when they're setting up, you can hear still, and then there, like that would be your monitor, right? They're watching all cameras on the monitor, and you could hear everything there. So we're rehearsing our feed, and we started talking shit about flavor flavor. And Bernie talking shit. We're talking, I got the fucking like, okay, that's okay, let's cut on rehearsal. Okay, guys, go change. See you. We walk out, we go by the monitor.

SPEAKER_07

Bernie Matt goes, fuck, but the fuck and he just walked away. He was like, man. I'm like, ooh.

SPEAKER_04

We were all doing hey, he was like just staring at us freaking That's funny. Oh, that was messed up. But yeah, Bernie and every day he would have soul food, like, because you know they give us lunch or anything like that. But in his room, if he wanted soul food, he had it every day. In his room, yeah. You know, because he was he was really cool. Yeah, Robin Williams again was another one who was amazing. Benna Fleck was all right.

SPEAKER_01

Uh was Robin Williams like um, I feel like he was in character. And that's what I was gonna say. I feel like Robin Williams over time we've seen more of uh um entertainers' personality, probably because of like social media and stuff like that. But I feel like we never got Robin Williams' actual personality. Yeah, like I he's one that I don't see that, so it's just like how was he?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, well, I I worked with him when he was sober. Boo. I was kidding. He was no fun.

SPEAKER_01

No, no fun at all. No, no.

SPEAKER_04

He was still the best person I ever worked with. Kind. Like funny, yeah, kind. Like we first got to Australia for part two. Uh he saw us walking around, you know, um, and took us all to lunch. Like I'm talking about 20 people, and we all ate, hung out. Um, and just his work ethic, like he really did change his t-shirt like three times a day. Cause, dude, he's so animated.

SPEAKER_07

I mean, and you know, we play the penguins, and I'm like, I made it in the it was kind of cool.

SPEAKER_04

I got a royalty check because I made it in your fight. I'm scared. Because I made it to the soundtrack with that rap. So it's pretty cool. Yeah, too. That's dope. Because that was yeah, I spoke the best Spanish, basically, is what that was.

SPEAKER_01

You were Robin. That's what that's cool.

SPEAKER_04

Um, I mean, he worked his butt off. The director had to tell us. Because if you riff, like you make a joke, he's he's taken off. You know, he had his sound and it's Robin Williams, so a lot of times they don't want to tell him to, like, hey Robin, can you cut it? Yeah. That's felt. And they just do a tape, so yeah, he'd go out there. What you talking about? Fuck yo, man. And of course, our stuff was R-rated, yeah, you're crazy. But the director would come up and say, Lombardo, listen, could you not get Robin going? Just we're trying to get through the day. Every time you make a joke, you know what happens. So if you could just not, just not getting started.

SPEAKER_02

That's 100% accurate, too.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not for real.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, just if you could not, just don't make any jokes, just let's get through it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I'm like, okay, three more jokes right there. That reminds me of me in in high school. Like, you know, you get you get the class going. Can you just stop doing that? Like, that's literally how they talk about it.

SPEAKER_00

She just said she was shy, so she's like, Yeah, she was. That's what I was gonna say. She's been saying she's shy this whole time.

SPEAKER_01

I am shy. I always high school. Them motherfuckers I have been going to school with since I was in kindergarten.

SPEAKER_04

Uh-huh. So you were the enabler. I was let him going.

SPEAKER_01

I am shy. But that's another topic for another day.

SPEAKER_04

So with the fucker. Next question. Read me the next question, Slate.

SPEAKER_07

It's dumb though. In your career.

SPEAKER_00

In your career, would you say that? Oh, it's called a memory.

SPEAKER_04

It's called for memory.

SPEAKER_00

A director or an actor that gave you a valuable lesson that you then apply to your craft. That I then applied. Yeah, that you got from a director or actor that you worked with.

SPEAKER_04

Uh no, not really. Uh try to think. Yeah, Jason Patrick, I did a show a wake with just uh Jason Patrick, which it only lasted one season. And Wilmer Balderama was on it as well, who I've known for years. Um but he he was really cool. I mean, it's just certain people that compliments, I guess. You know, when you do it. Uh Regina King was really cool too. I did uh Southland, I think she did. Oh yeah, I had a scene with where I just blew her away. She's funny person. She's she's pretty, yeah, she's nice. Yeah. I'm married too. I was a prison too. I'm married. I say I'm married, not dead.

SPEAKER_02

I see some shit I've thought of.

SPEAKER_04

Now she's all mad over here.

SPEAKER_01

I understand.

Parenting, Family Life & Child Safety Talk

SPEAKER_04

Boy talk. Sorry, we had to do the boy talk. Um, but no, she's really nice. But uh I just uh I I feel great more when I when I hang with the big boys, when I impress them. You know what I'm saying? That's enough for me. Or believe it or not, I like it when the grip tells me that I rocked it, or or the cameraman. You know, you know what I mean? That means more to me. You know what I mean? Or even some extra thank you, man. You know what I mean? Because they don't have to say it. You know what I mean? That's true. That's true. Extras are usually hating. Yeah, you know, and you're wrong. And DPs too. DPs are working, they're very focused, you know, or when yeah, or a grip or something like that. So when they come up and they're like, yeah, you want me to rock that shit. Like, you know, that means more to me. Hey, Lombardo, the Canon Man, like, you know, that that. Because again, the directors usually are the producers, they don't care like how much time we got, they're worried about stuff, you know. And I've done like I stopped doing commercials just because they're I I was never really good at booking them a lot because they want, I I guess I was too edgy. I don't know, too much of an actor. Um, but when I did get them, they either never aired or I just had a really weird experience. You know what I mean? Like this weird telling directment one time, and I had already been acting for a long time. It's probably 10 years ago, so 20 years, you know, and then and they come up, it's like, don't get nervous. I have like two lines for Burger King. You're like, mm, it's good. I loved it, or something stupid like that. Because don't get nervous, camera comes on, okay? All right. Motherfucker. Yes, it's my first job, Nick.

SPEAKER_01

Since you've seen like such you say you've been acting for 30 years, that's dope. And it's like there's been such a transition over time, right? And what does that feel like for you?

SPEAKER_04

Like currently, feels like I'm going broke. Absolutely. No, it's a great transition, though. Yeah, because it's a tough life.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

It's a tough life.

SPEAKER_02

It's good to know that's an air career.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, right. No, for real. No, yeah, it's a lot of true. And then even like, you know, because like I mentioned before, we didn't know actors' personality. So then, like, do you feel like you have to keep up with like do the social media stuff? And do you like good? No, I love that.

SPEAKER_04

No, yeah, no, honestly, wouldn't like stay true. When I when I uh I was doing murder in the first with Tay Diggs, right? And that was the first time where social media was taking off, you know, uh Twitter, uh, Facebook, Instagram, they were just blowing up. And that was part of my job. Like we had to live tweet during the show. You know, so they made us do, you know, we had to live tweet. And luckily we did the East Coast time. So, you know, I didn't have to stay up because our show came on at 9 p.m. Um, I think we were at 10 o'clock on FX. So I you know stays up that late, you know. During the week, we were on like Tuesdays. So now I gotta go to work. Yeah, so we would do the live tweet, but East Coast time. Um, so I got caught up at that time. Of course, because I was a regular on a show, so everyone's nice. You're like, yeah, keep up. Oh, I have to reply to everybody. I have to reply to all these friends I've never fucking met. You know? You know. But yeah, I got addicting, you know?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

So and then now I I I now it's really bad. I even told my agents, hey, if I get an audition, just text me and let me know it's in my inbox. Because I don't even go through my emails as much. It's because of all the spam and all the bullshit and people coming after you, you know, like so. Yeah, I try to stay off of it. Yeah. So, but if to go back to request it, it probably would help me more. I just, you know, I don't I don't have the time. Because I got three kids, man, like and a wife. And I rather spend I'd rather be there when I'm there. I feel like a lot of parents are there, but they're not really there.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

You know what I'm saying? So many are on there. Like I even sitting outside the school. If you see me, you always just stand in there too. I don't see you on your phone, you know. We're enjoying the view, looking at the kids. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Did you see that those two kids fighting that day? No. Yeah, it was uh You didn't stop it? I I was sitting there. Oh man, taping it. Hey, he said the joke was taping it.

SPEAKER_07

Whoa, stop going viral.

SPEAKER_00

I was I was asking Zulie something, and because she she was uh with the baby, and I look over, and one kid, I thought they were just having uh interaction, and I realized one kid was dead on set because as soon as the other kid turned around, he snatched him by the backpack and drug him to the ground. He had no chance. Yo, he had no chance. I couldn't even react in time, but they had already broken it up. But I was like, Oh, he was serious. I wanna know what happened. I do too.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, yeah, we'll investigate.

SPEAKER_00

That was that was wild. Um I didn't think that would happen, but yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But I think it's dope that you did because I had the same. I try to be there for her. Like it's funny because like but like I pick her up early every Friday. Yeah, so I walk in like I'm like, well, they're not gonna see this. Like they they don't ID me or nothing. I walk in, they go, okay, we'll call her right now. Like they know, like, oh that's oh that's her dad. Yeah, like so it's and everywhere we go, everywhere she like from her gymnastics there, like they go, oh no, that's her dad. We don't have to her dad. Yeah, so like they know that, oh you know, we don't want problems with dad, because I will like she gets on my nerve, but I will kill you over her. Yeah, like in a heartbeat. So I think that's dope.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Um so it's all about the kids, man. All about the kids, even though they stress you the fuck out.

SPEAKER_00

What would you say is your balancing technique? Like I the day I saw you meditate in the grass, I was like, you look very peaceful and you found your place as grounding. So what would you say?

SPEAKER_04

Uh I'm glad you remember that. I don't even remember.

SPEAKER_00

I must have been, I think I was high as probably, but you were just you got in there early. I wasn't meditating on this.

SPEAKER_03

You look very at peace. You look very at all. You didn't see me eat those mushrooms.

SPEAKER_00

You looked very at peace, and you look, and I see like like you you've already pointed out, you do a good job of balancing being a father and being a present father. Um, how do you balance that? Is it what uh along with like meditating, you say skateboarding?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, I love skateboarding. Uh and my kids are now getting into it, which is really cool. Um, so my son thinks he knows everything now. Better than me, he just got into it. I was like, no, Dad, do it like this, do it like that, but shut up. Do a kickflip, do a kickflip, just shut up. Yeah, he's just getting into it and stuff. Uh but again, just really trying to spend time with them, you know. Even last night, just actually like even watching a movie with a butt really being there and watching it, you know, not being on my phone or getting up, going outside, you know, sticking in a drink. I was there while I was drinking.

SPEAKER_00

As a follow-up.

SPEAKER_03

When I was present.

SPEAKER_00

What uh movies of yours have your kids seen and what did they say about them?

SPEAKER_04

They they love the of course, which shows that they love me. They ain't they hate the ones where I die, which is good. Which are a lot.

SPEAKER_07

That's okay. Going back to the ethnic rolls, the stereotype.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah I've died a lot. But only an actor could be stoked about uh, oh man, yeah, you get stabbed this time, right? Oh, how do I die this time? There you go. Um, but they love it. They love Coco, of course, but they love big ass spider, they love to watch that. But my my youngest daughter calls it big butt spider, of course. She's about to say big ass. Can we watch big butt spider?

SPEAKER_02

My daughter will have no questions and she wouldn't question it. She wouldn't? You know what she asked me yesterday? What this is off topic. So I'm picking her, I picked her from practice and um the regulars start playing. So 30 for 30 came on. And I was like, she was like, Dad, oh, don't play it. Can we listen to it? I said, You can't cuss. You can't say none of the bad words. So, okay, but what about she said, she said, what about bitches? Can I say bitches? You can't say bitches.

SPEAKER_07

I can't say bitches. So no bitches.

SPEAKER_00

No bitches. What if we're referring to a female dog?

SPEAKER_05

I can't say that no, can't get a bitch?

SPEAKER_04

Let me get one bitch. Just one.

SPEAKER_01

That's hilarious. She really is. Like, I'm gonna that's funny.

SPEAKER_02

She's like, I know I can't say shit, but can I say bitches?

SPEAKER_01

I said, No, you can't say neither one of them. She back there getting all of her cuts. Yeah, just getting them off. Why can't I say shit?

SPEAKER_04

Chicken nuggets, but no one says chicken nuggets. It says cuss word. I don't know why she says chicken nuggets. Oh, my chicken nuggets. Oh, she goes, oh biscuits.

SPEAKER_07

I like it. Oh biscuits.

SPEAKER_05

She went old school.

SPEAKER_01

Oh biscuits. I thought you must have got that from your granny. Yeah, my kids are at the age where they're offended at the fact that they can't cuss. They feel like I'm like, you still cannot. I told them I'm 37 years old. I don't cuss in front of my mom. Like, I have to be pissed before I'll cuss in front of my mom. But like, no, you still can't do it.

SPEAKER_04

No, I just respect. Respect.

SPEAKER_01

And I and I told my, and I always say, once you start, you're gonna lose respect for for all adults. I'm like, there's adults that I don't cuss in front of just because so she don't respect me at all. That's not her. That's all I there are adults that are older than me and that are I'm older. Usually it's women. I it's like a thing like that.

SPEAKER_02

So you so you hate men.

SPEAKER_01

No, what is this is?

SPEAKER_04

No, no, no. Are you saying that women with a women, women with a potty mouth to like it I don't know.

SPEAKER_01

I I I grew up in a way to where like, you know, women women aren't supposed to cuss. I'm gonna cuss from a moment.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, my younger sister cusses a lot. Cusses a lot. That's just her, but yeah, it it throws some people off. You know what I fuck is saying, and this fucking stupid asshole came up, and I was like, what the fuck? Yeah, and then she was like, Well, fuck you, bitch.

SPEAKER_05

And I was like, shh, I fucking laugh. I would love to have a conversation with you. I think it's hilarious. I think it's hilarious. I'm gonna laugh. It don't bother me.

SPEAKER_04

But my in-laws are sitting there like, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

That's how I grew up. Women, women aren't supposed to. I cuss, I do cuss, but when I'm around women, I like or even I don't know. It's a thing with my family. I just know women are supposed to be a good idea.

SPEAKER_04

People don't say that, but my in-laws, my in-laws are awesome and they they know her now. They they'll sit there and have a full conversation with her. Like, they don't even see it anymore. They know they know my sister. That's all I know. My wife is serious. She tried to cuss.

SPEAKER_02

I was like, Oh, she's here.

SPEAKER_01

She's curious. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But then I try to make her more mad because I think it's hilarious.

SPEAKER_01

Shut up.

SPEAKER_02

And then it's just, you know, about the crap.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, it's more of the new words that are coming out that I understand, you know? Outfits drippy, go on kids. Drippy, your fit's drippy. It just means fly. Yeah, I know. Dripping, there's blurring drippy, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

What do you what are you confusing about?

SPEAKER_00

I'm like, you just said that, and I'm like, and you and you wonder why the stabbings have happened? I'm like, wait a minute. He's looking like he's like, I'm egging it on.

SPEAKER_02

Like, it's it's very well known here in the people in Oma. I I like my wanna have a little bit of toxin her, you know. Let's not go there. I like I like to know that the threat of violence towards me from her is there. No, my wife. Oh, she cares. She cares. Let me know she cares. She cares, she cares enough that she's offended that she wants to hurt you.

SPEAKER_06

That's love right there. Oh, yeah. It's secret.

SPEAKER_01

It's love. Might be why I don't have a man. I guess I don't care enough. Probably because you're cussing in front of him. No, shut up, fool.

SPEAKER_05

She's a lady.

SPEAKER_01

I am a lady.

SPEAKER_05

She's a lady. A cussing lady. They say Madea's a lady, too, but I don't believe it.

SPEAKER_01

Do not compare me to Medea. That's funny.

SPEAKER_04

I just saw that last one, the road trip one. That would crack me up.

SPEAKER_01

Really?

SPEAKER_04

The one with the what? The brother, the brother, the uncle? Uncle Joe? Yeah. I put it on to try to go to sleep and I I couldn't. I actually watched it.

SPEAKER_06

I hate when I did that. I hate when I was like that.

SPEAKER_02

I was like, damn. Yeah. All knows that car seat. That happens a lot. Yeah. If you repeat this, I'll deny it.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01

So it's meditating a comp um a practice. Don't try to rub us back in. No, I just sit there.

SPEAKER_04

Well, we was happy. We were at no that day. I just, yeah, just it was nice. It was perfect. Because you know the heat's coming over here. Yeah. So when it's nice, I just like to kick it down and sit down and just. There's the breeze stare at the horses across the street from my isn't it nice? Elementary school.

SPEAKER_01

Observe. That's what I love.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. Being out there. All right. My kids go to elementary school with horses across the street. That is the true.

SPEAKER_05

Right? That's the true.

SPEAKER_02

That's cool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, there was a factor across the street from Australia. It's cool if it didn't come with the guys with the big old trucks.

SPEAKER_04

Oh.

SPEAKER_05

Yep. Yeah. Yeah, we know who those are.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, we know who those are. So that that was a big culture track moving from you know from LA to here, which uh because you forget that this was the Wild West, right? There's a lot of good old boys still.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, they're here for sure.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but it's not, right? You forget.

SPEAKER_01

I used to work with a lot of them.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, used to.

SPEAKER_01

Now I work from home. I just don't have to see them anymore.

SPEAKER_02

She does that flash.

SPEAKER_01

Every chance she gets to be. Okay, so I'm home. I started working from home about eight months ago, and that's all I could talk about. Oh, that's good. The best thing that's ever happened. This is the second time she's gotten dressed this week.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, I know. I know exactly. She don't have shoes on.

SPEAKER_01

It's nice. But I don't have to be around people.

SPEAKER_04

Well, I just don't work.

SPEAKER_01

You have to do it too.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, that's the other lesson. Like, you know, I'm sure it's sure it's not uh one of the questions there, but yeah. Um, it's gonna come up, or I always like to say when I do this, because yeah, I love my life because I can't see myself doing anything else. So whenever anybody asks me about wanting to start acting or what they should do, especially younger's uh younger kids, or whatever, I say, look, if you can see yourself doing anything else, do that. Yeah, because you have to absolutely love it to put up with it. Yeah, otherwise it's not worth it. You know, it sounds like marriage. If yeah, if you're just gonna try it, yeah, it is. If you're just gonna try it, it ain't gonna work. You gotta go all in. But you gotta seem to be happy, though. Yeah, you gotta go all in, yeah. Seriously, and yeah, you gotta know what it is, uh, prepare for it, work hard. But yeah, but you know, I I wouldn't wish it on anybody. It's just for me. That's what I love. I can't, I don't see myself doing anything else.

SPEAKER_02

At the point of all time, she should do voice acting. Because everybody says she has a nice voice. Yeah. Like when she reads, like she like not like necessarily, not like voice acting, but like uh like she should be one of those people that read like the narrator, like the audiobook people.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

That's a that's a job. You could do that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04

You just gotta get a voiceover agent, which I used to have one, and I haven't they haven't hit me up in a long time. Excuse me. Yeah. Um no, because the thing is, voiceover is very competitive. I've been lucky with like the few jobs I've gotten. Um, I did a cartoon years ago called Rocket Power. I love Rocket Power. I remember Rocket Power. So that's the other day I recognized more than anything is my voice. Because people were like, dude, I know that voice.

SPEAKER_03

Like, oh, look at the little torquos.

SPEAKER_04

I was I was Lars from Rocket Power. I remember I was the bully, so I was Lars. So people hear my voice. I went to a restaurant one time and the server actually put me down as Lars. Yeah. And I did the ticket. I go, dude, you know Lars? He goes, Yeah. I said, Well, how come you didn't say nothing? It's funny, sometimes too, like people I don't know if they're because yeah, that was in Burbank. So there's that was when we did uh premiere. Barney's Beenery. So because there's a lot of celebrities in Westwood, a lot of these servers and bartenders, they're they're told not to talk to the actors or they see anybody. Like, don't say nothing. Cause I I was already living over here. Don't be uh star set. Yeah, that was for the uh actually Candy King Lane premiere. We went there afterwards. And yeah, he put me down as large and said, dude, what are you saying? He goes, they told us nothing. I took pictures with them and shit, you know, everything. Because yeah, you know, a lot of actors give us a bad name as well, which sucks. Shut the fuck up, man. You know, you know, you wouldn't be where you are if it wasn't for the fans. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01

So without a name, have you run, have you encountered anybody that really was just like, oh, you're a lot of people?

SPEAKER_04

Me? I'm an asshole. That said I'm gonna do it. No, no.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, other actors? Oh, yeah. A lot. Oh, yeah. I mean, I would say a lot. Like I said, some were nice enough. Some, the biggest thing, which is interesting because it makes you wonder, would they would they be successful if they didn't have that huge fucking ego, right? Yeah, that's that's true. Oh, think about it. That's true. I'm sure you met rappers and shit, yeah. You're like, fuck that motherfucker, right? But it do they make it without that?

SPEAKER_00

That's the question, right? I have no problem saying it. Talk Pali was that way.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, like I saw why he had to be an asshole because that was the only way to make sure he got what he needed to get for that bill. Yeah. But then at the same time, you realize that also might on the flip side be why he didn't get go further because Yeah, there's always a downside.

SPEAKER_01

There's always a downside.

SPEAKER_04

There's no Yeah, like I worked with stars, you know, that like have an entourage of shit. You know, they're actors, but they literally are acting like rock stars or rappers. You know what I mean? And bringing people, and like I had some parents like come up to me when I was on shows. Hey, Lombardo, thanks so much for talking about me and my kids, you know, because some actors don't, and they look right at the actor, you know. And I won't give names, but yeah, they're a big star, and you know, they're a little funny African-American guy, and that's all I'll say. Yes, you pretty much guess. And it's not uh it doesn't, you know, it doesn't I was gonna say it doesn't rhyme with bats, so it's that one.

SPEAKER_01

No, I can imagine.

SPEAKER_00

Um, is there a role that you've done that you wouldn't mind revisiting that you really like doing?

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. I mean, they've been saying for years that they want to do a big ass fighter too. And that would be really fun. I would love to do that. Um what else? No, that's about it, man. Of course, if they brought back Rocket Power, I'd be love to relive Lars. Lars was and Coco too. Let's do it. Let's do it. Oh, and no, the other lesson too, uh, for all you young actors or whoever acting right there. I don't have a job right now. And I don't, I mean, I had I just read for Bad Lad, for no, um Dark Winds and Ballard, which you know our shows out there. Uh, but the roles were huge, but there's because I'm 53 now, the roles are getting less and less. You know what I'm saying? It's just the age thing. And like I was saying earlier, now I'm going against it'll say man 50s. So African American, white, Indian. Right. So I'm competing against all of them. So your odds go down and the roles get less.

SPEAKER_01

But even in the even in like the animation, they have an age for that.

SPEAKER_04

But I that's what I was gonna say earlier that they're so cliqueish. I like I've been lucky to get some animated roles, but it's really competitive. And it's the thing that sucks now is as you know, all they hire are actors, big actors to do the voices. You know what I mean? So it takes out a lot of their voiceover.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I know, yeah. I mean, don't shot it, Will. I'm just you have enough money.

SPEAKER_05

No, he shot himself.

SPEAKER_00

Or should I say, slapped himself? Yeah, he slapped himself.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, no, I don't know.

SPEAKER_05

No, I mean, that's a great topic, too. I mean, how many actresses? You know, I met Chris Rock in person. He was nice. I told him, I said, you need something, but you Chris Rock was really funny. He came on he came on Bernie Mac. He was tiny as fuck, but yeah, he was funny.

SPEAKER_04

He came on Bernie Mac and he he had the best joke over on there because we were doing the the table seat. He goes, Man, see, I want a job like y'all. Because you know, come in, you know, maybe once, twice a week, say something mildly funny.

SPEAKER_07

Because you know, when you're recurring, you get the big jokes, yeah. Say something mildly funny.

SPEAKER_01

That's true. He's gotta wow him every time.

SPEAKER_04

We're only there, we're only there to set up Bernie Mac, right? He's the star, yeah. Right? So, yeah, we're gonna say something mildly funny. Oh, he killed it.

SPEAKER_00

Have you ever made Bernie Mac wow? Oh, yeah, plenty of times.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, plenty of times. But the thing is, too, they they got along way better because they golfed. So they were always talking golf. He was a huge golfer, and the other two guys golfed, and I like to smoke. So when we would get a break, I would go smoke, you know, and they're like, Brandon talks that he like he was like uh he was a good dude, man. Ah, he was so awesome.

SPEAKER_00

I said I read his autobiography and it was uh very uh informative because he realized he didn't get a lot of success to later in life.

SPEAKER_06

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But like when you see like the stories he was talking about growing, like getting older and working at UPS and all these odd jobs to then do stand-up and all that.

SPEAKER_01

That's what I think is cool. Well, when I see different actors and their stories, like I know that in my mind right now, it's Raji Plans.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, she's great. Um that's a very interesting uh career path. Yes, tell me about it. When you talk about your roles, like I was reading your IMBD. You did you do a voiceover for Biker Mike Mars Biker Mice from Mars?

SPEAKER_04

Yes, I did. Yeah, I did like I think I did like three.

SPEAKER_01

I have I have another one back about Biker Mice from Mars. My dad did that for Biker Mice from Mars. Wow, he drew the animation for that.

SPEAKER_03

That's what's fun.

SPEAKER_01

That's actually and no, and I could cry. I apparently did a voice. Nobody nobody ever knows about that show. Because that was early 90s.

SPEAKER_04

Damn, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_01

That's dope. That's really dope.

SPEAKER_04

Well, you gotta make me feel old.

SPEAKER_00

That makes me that made my childhood feel great.

SPEAKER_02

I was trying to think about rock and power. So then how old was I watching? Yeah, rocking power. Because I'm I'm bothered to be four yesterday. I must have been like nine when I was watching Rock and Power.

SPEAKER_04

I love it, man. But again, it's you know, hey, it's like you guys said, it's like every other business. There's got things you love about it, things you're like, uh, you know. Uh one of my favorites is I love the show. I hate the business. You know what I mean? You wish you were on set all the time, you know, like doing that, but to get there is the job. I mean, I don't get paid for audition. Right. Why you gotta get all sad?

SPEAKER_01

No, it's not sad. I just don't cry for me.

SPEAKER_04

I'm all right.

SPEAKER_01

No, it's just it's relatable because I mean, not to say it's all the same, but shit, it's all the same. We all love our we all love the outcomes, but we hate the the progress.

SPEAKER_02

I always say like, even what we do, the job is not the problem. It's the politics at the job that's the problem.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's not no the job is the problem sometimes. No, well nobody likes to get up every day. You work from home. I know, I know. Hear me out.

SPEAKER_04

We're finding email and pajamas and court. You are setting that up. I know you're setting that up again. Oh, wait, I work from home. Sorry.

SPEAKER_01

And that's what my headphones turned on. That was crazy.

SPEAKER_05

Um, is it because you got the screen? I know. Was that your phone that was making that noise on your music turned on?

SPEAKER_02

CFI is a the CSI is watching through your your glasses. Yeah, no, they're not snitch. But um I hate it.

SPEAKER_01

Bam, bam, bam.

SPEAKER_04

You're off the show.

SPEAKER_02

It's uh the whole metaverse is looking at us right now.

SPEAKER_01

No, they're not. Just just the whole uh it's adulting, basically. You know, yeah, you can like your job. I love my job. I loved my job before I worked from home, but I love it even more now that I work from home. But yeah, it's like nobody wants to do that eight hours out of the day. I have better shit. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. You have better shit you could be doing. That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00

So, what legacy would you like to leave in your personal life and career when it's all said and done? There he is.

SPEAKER_04

Yes. What's up? So uh I mean, uh I just want to be a great dad, as personally. That's been number one. Husband, whatever. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

These are live.

SPEAKER_05

I'm gonna have to excel. I'll be good. I'll be good.

SPEAKER_07

I'll be I'll be good ish.

SPEAKER_04

No, be a good fella, and then um just leave good work. Yeah, as an actor, that's it. I've done some projects and I'm like, why the hell did I do that? But it doesn't matter the size of the project. Like, all I can control is my performance. So I want to give a good performance. It doesn't matter if I'm getting paid, not getting paid. Like two years ago, I did this student film that got a lot of acclaim. And I was, you know, I didn't have any work. So I was like, sure, I'll go do it. They were really surprised I did it. And I had a blast and I learned a lot working with these, you know, you know, these students, you know, like college students stuff, and they they really um respected my opinion, which is weird.

SPEAKER_02

You don't get that, you don't get that in marriage.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, exactly. Like, shut up in being a parent.

SPEAKER_02

You had to include you had to include yourself, huh? No.

SPEAKER_05

Shut the fish. She works from home. Well, we're always gonna make it about them, isn't it? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Don't forget the mirror.

SPEAKER_06

Nigga is not whatever.

SPEAKER_01

Oh man.

SPEAKER_00

So I gotta ask this. I always ask this. You guys ready? Oh, you're doing it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I'm ready. Here we go.

SPEAKER_00

Lombardo. Yeah. We have to ask you. It's a tradition. Okay. Your top five, dead or alive, MCs.

SPEAKER_04

Top five, dead or alive, MCs. Oh, right to my head. Rock him popped into my head, first of all. Uh MCA.

SPEAKER_05

Gotta throw in a beastie boy. That makes sense because he was he was a skater. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

It makes sense.

SPEAKER_05

Blondie.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, getting political.

SPEAKER_04

I know. I love Nas, uh, Escobar. And because I'm a skater, nah, he's only got one skater. Lupe Fiasco, because I love kick push, rest. Because you're a skater. Uh Nas. How many did I got so far? I think that was five. I think it's four. Four. Ooh. And I gotta go. You can say yourself.

SPEAKER_05

You know, you got routes out there. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_07

Yeah, that's true. I got one road to take me.

SPEAKER_04

I'm gonna go with Bad Bunny fool.

SPEAKER_06

Do you?

SPEAKER_04

Oh man, I gotta go Eminem. Yeah? Okay. I rock with that. Marshall?

SPEAKER_02

Who?

SPEAKER_04

Marshall.

SPEAKER_00

Marshall.

SPEAKER_02

Marshall Mathers. That's that's that's no, that's the white guy.

SPEAKER_03

We always have the white guy.

SPEAKER_02

Eminem is black.

Favorite Movies, Final Thoughts & Outro

SPEAKER_04

Marshall's white. I don't hit you guys right. No, you guys, uh you guys, favorite movie. Uh I'm an expert. Favorite movie. No, we got favorite movie. Oh, my favorite movie? Yeah, go.

SPEAKER_02

Like a list?

SPEAKER_05

Just one.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, my favorite movie of all time is Foolish. Which one? It's Foolish. Foolish. Yes. I've never seen it. Foolish. I don't know what that is. And I always like that because when somebody says a favorite movie of all time, I definitely have to check it out.

SPEAKER_02

It's with a it's a low, it's a it's a B movie. It's with uh Eddie Griffin and Masterpiece.

SPEAKER_01

I do remember that. Foolish.

SPEAKER_02

I didn't think that's one of my does your wife like it? She hates it.

SPEAKER_07

That's what he loves.

SPEAKER_02

I'm just no, Eddie Griffin. Eddie Griffin is one of my favorite comedians. Oh yeah. That's why I like like my he was good. There's very few Eddie Griffin movies that I don't enjoy. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

It's kind of semi-autobiographical, right? Because he was a comedian, right? Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

All right, foolish. All right, you don't.

SPEAKER_00

Uh it's a tie. It's it's the wood and the other guy.

SPEAKER_04

The other guy's a lot of guys. But the wood. But he brought in a comedy. Favorite movie. If you say sleepless in Seattle, oh my gosh. Well, I'm gonna guess the bodyguard.

SPEAKER_02

No, it can't be that because she because she still doesn't listen, no matter how much Kevin told her to have to listen.

SPEAKER_01

She better listen. Um I have a couple, but you know what? For a long time, what my favorite movie has been and is still up there is poetic.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, that's all right. Miss Mid.

SPEAKER_01

Could be better.

SPEAKER_04

That's her pick, man.

SPEAKER_03

Thank you.

SPEAKER_04

No one seemed foolish. I didn't say nothing. What's your favorite movie? It got foolish on VHS.

SPEAKER_05

And Coco! That's it. You have to have it on VHS. It's an old movie. That's an old movie.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, my favorite movie. I still got Raging Bull. Okay. That's what's up.

SPEAKER_00

So, with that being said, this has been one super dope informative detail.

SPEAKER_03

Hilarious. Very funny my favorite Tokyo shit.

SPEAKER_00

Because he would bust my chops the whole fucking time, and I enjoyed it.

SPEAKER_07

Are you reading that still?

SPEAKER_00

But that's that's from off the top. That was off the top. I I I thoroughly enjoyed this. I appreciate you for being here. Um, you're always welcome back. And I miss Kevin!

SPEAKER_07

I miss Kevin!

SPEAKER_04

Kevin showing up all late. No, I hope everything's all right, Kevin. Nice to be here. That's crazy. You should look at your own house.

SPEAKER_03

Don't you live here? Pizza.

SPEAKER_00

But uh again, we appreciate you for being here. We rock with you. Thank you for rocking with me. Thank you. Thank you guys for having me, man. Anytime. Hey.

SPEAKER_05

Cheers.

SPEAKER_00

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SPEAKER_05

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SPEAKER_03

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SPEAKER_06

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SPEAKER_00

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SPEAKER_07

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